where to buy salvinorin A?

[skinwalker]

apparently after reading our state law on Salvia the form called "salvinorin A" is legal to purchase in Wisconsin and supposedly still retains hallusnagenic properties. I've only tried and extracted DMT and never tried salvia and got into this game too late and i have a burning curiosity to compare salvia to dmt experience.

", the prohibition does not apply to manufacturing a form of salvinorin A that is recognized by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as a homeopathic drug and that may be obtained from a retail store without a prescription, or to distributing or delivering such a form of salvinorin A to a person who is 18 years of age or older. "

I have no idea where to look for this locally as all the headshops no longer carry salvia and now are trying to push some "space" (spaceblends.com) herb thing on me which honestly doesnt look at all hallusnagenic and just a weed replacement. Anyhow I really really want to try salvia sometime and hopefully this loophole will allow me to legally buy some. It also ISNT illegal to posses salvia in Wisconsin but is illegal to sell it now

what do you know about "salvinorin A" and where can i buy some if its even worth it?

 

[benzyme]

you do know it's active in micrograms, right?
serial dilutions are a must with pure salvinorin-a.

 

[sigmundfreuid]

i personnaly wouldnt waste money on buying pure Salvinorin A, I would buy something like 1 pound which is
150.00 us + shipping from BBB ,you could also buy much less.

then i would make a simple extraction , purification , xtalisation , re - x and youll get some super pure Salvinorin A at
a very low cost. Its worth it.

 

[benzyme]

it would be a difficult task to purify salvinorin-a, none of the re-x teks mentioned will get salvinorin close to pure. there are two chiral carbons, a simple acetone wash won't cut it.

 

[sigmundfreuid]

Heres the tek its on erowid

 

[jamie]

Salvinorin A is not a form of salvia..thats like saying DMT is a form of mimosa. Salvinorin alpha is the main psychedelic diterpene found in salvia divinorum..there is no point in playing around with salvinorin A..especailly if you have no experience with salvia at all..no offence but I don think you know what you are talking about getting yourslef into..there is no comparison between salvinorin A and DMT..salvinorin A will most likely blow away anything you have ever could have possibly imagined and probabily scare the living shit out of you..are you prepared to measure out a dose that s the size of a grain of sand??..and then on top of that have no idea how strongly that dose will effect you?..With something as powerful as salvinorin you dont want to be taking iffy chances like that.

I dont care how much expereince anyone has with other psychedelics..no ammount of expereince with other psychedelics is going to prepare you for a salvinorin high dose breakthrough..its just so different from anything else..you cant rely on previous psychedelic use as point of reference.

Start with the raw herb itself and be careful.

If its illegal where you are..go out of state..
Get a live plant and grow it.

 

[benzyme]

salvinorin-a would be difficult to dose. it's active at ~100 mcg. someone trying to eyeball it would not only waste a shitload, but likely black out.

i remember jlfcatalog (now defunct) used to stock some back in 2000...it was 500 mg for $5500

 

[corpus callosum]

Hearken to the words of Benzyme- pure salvinorin A needs micrograms for dosing and unless you have the facility to accurately measure such a dose, you are potentially gonna screw-up in a most impressive and regrettable fashion:evil: :twisted: :? :shock:

 

[skinwalker]

"no offence but I don think you know what you are talking about getting yourslef into"

no offense taken and I have absolutely no clue what i am talking about regarding saliva, i'm just dissapointed i missed out when it was legal just 2 months ago (just about the time when i started my DMT journey)

what is the best way to obtain salvia this late in the game. I want to add it to my experiments and guage it against my dmt experiences.

 

[Apoc]

if salvia is legal where you are, why don't you just go to salviamonster.com and buy the extracts from there? (salviamonster has the best prices by far, and very cheap shipping). A good 20x or 40x trip will kick your ass hard enough. You don't need pure salvinorin. You'd probably just perceive a pure salvinorin trip as a blackout.

 

[benzyme]

I want to add it to my experiments and guage it against my dmt experiences.

dmt and salvinorin are night and day. salvinorin isn't quite like a classic psychedelic,
and comparing the two is like comparing a tapestry to a fence


they're both intense and brief when vaped, some dissociation; but that's pretty much where the similarities end.

 

[Global]

Also, if it's legal to ship, I would highly recommend salviazone.com. The only salvia I've ever done was Salvia Zone, and I've had crazy breakthrough experiences with regularity.

 

[skinwalker]

I want to add it to my experiments and guage it against my dmt experiences.

dmt and salvinorin are night and day. salvinorin isn't quite like a classic psychedelic,
and comparing the two is like comparing a tapestry to a fence


they're both intense and brief when vaped, some dissociation; but that's pretty much where the similarities end.

how so? I've heard they are quite similiar, i've read that DMT is supposedly much more intense...

 

[benzyme]

not very similar at all, and intensity is a toss up. they're both very intense, they just transport you to different destinations.

someone accurately said salvia sort of puts you in a parallel universe, where the visions may be a bit odd, even skewed, but you may still recognize it as an altered reality.
DMT puts you in an alien world, only recognizable if you've been there before.

the qualities of visions are vastly different. DMT visions tend to be much more geometrically elaborate

 

[jamie]

I want to add it to my experiments and guage it against my dmt experiences.

dmt and salvinorin are night and day. salvinorin isn't quite like a classic psychedelic,
and comparing the two is like comparing a tapestry to a fence


they're both intense and brief when vaped, some dissociation; but that's pretty much where the similarities end.

how so? I've heard they are quite similiar, i've read that DMT is supposedly much more intense...

Ive taken both many many many times..they are not really that similar at all..and as intense and profound as DMT is..none of that will properly prepare you for what a high dose of salvia can do to you. Imagine smoking this stuff, expecting the fractaline geometry and euphoric dissolution similar to DMT, instead feeling like nothing is happening..then realizing the top of your mouth is now stretching up and curling over the top of your face in the most unpleasant and shocking fashion..you start to peel in half, then those halfs start to peel in half..all the while still wondering if you are even tripping..you open your eyes but there is no escape..you realize you have shattered reality, brocken it like a mirror and there is no hope of putting the pieces back together..you feel schizophrenic as you start to communicate with something larger than you, and all these other smaller things as well..everything starts to feel seemless as you move through the pealed layers of your own being, up through into worlds full of landscapes and being that you realize exist in your cheak, or your eyelids, your nose or your finger..it's always been that way though so you accept it..

As the salvinorin A starts to leave the receptor sites the seamlessness starts to depart and you are left somewhere inbetween.."WTF?" you ask yourself, as you realize there even is such a thing as a self..but you really are still unsure of what that is..you might start to freally feak out at this stage and thrasharound in a confused delerium..thinking that the peak salvinorin state was your real reality and that you are being forced away from it into some sort of trip you dont want to take becomming this "human" thing..everything feels hopeless, you feel like your brain in fucked..you cant think any sort of rational linear thought no matter how hard your try, and you feel like the worst trick in the universe is being played on you and everything is in on it..

And then say you come back finally, realize whats just happened, your nearly crying and hanging halfway out your bedroom window..

This is why you want to start with plain leaf preferably. Salvinorin A is extremely powerful stuff. I can not emphasize this enough. Anyone who thinks DMT is more powerful really hasnt had a real salvinorin expereince..and power is not perportional to elegance..DMT is elegant..salvia CAN be..but that doesnt mean she is going to be.

Have a sitter until you know how salvia is going to effect you. I always had one when I first used it and Im glad I did. My first salvia breakthrough is still probabily the most realistic OBE I have ever had.

 

[Ginkgo]

", the prohibition does not apply to manufacturing a form of salvinorin A that is recognized by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as a homeopathic drug and that may be obtained from a retail store without a prescription, or to distributing or delivering such a form of salvinorin A to a person who is 18 years of age or older. "

The text applies to homeopathic products with salvinorin A. That means drugs that have no or incredibly small trace amounts of salvinorin A. The pure compound is still illegal with your laws, not to mention that you wont be able to get the compound anyway.

Salvinorin A and DMT are two vastly different substances, it doesn't take more than a quick look at the pharmacology to recognize that. You can break through with both, but so can you with many other substances. The only similarities I can see is that both is commonly smoked and have a short duration. Other than that, they are worlds apart - literally.

 

[gibran2]

Take a look at this thread for a few different viewpoints:

Salvia divinorum vs Dimethyltryptamine.

 

[Global]

I want to add it to my experiments and guage it against my dmt experiences.

dmt and salvinorin are night and day. salvinorin isn't quite like a classic psychedelic,
and comparing the two is like comparing a tapestry to a fence


they're both intense and brief when vaped, some dissociation; but that's pretty much where the similarities end.

how so? I've heard they are quite similiar, i've read that DMT is supposedly much more intense...

Ive taken both many many many times..they are not really that similar at all..and as intense and profound as DMT is..none of that will properly prepare you for what a high dose of salvia can do to you. Imagine smoking this stuff, expecting the fractaline geometry and euphoric dissolution similar to DMT, instead feeling like nothing is happening..then realizing the top of your mouth is now stretching up and curling over the top of your face in the most unpleasant and shocking fashion..you start to peel in half, then those halfs start to peel in half..all the while still wondering if you are even tripping..you open your eyes but there is no escape..you realize you have shattered reality, brocken it like a mirror and there is no hope of putting the pieces back together..you feel schizophrenic as you start to communicate with something larger than you, and all these other smaller things as well..everything starts to feel seemless as you move through the pealed layers of your own being, up through into worlds full of landscapes and being that you realize exist in your cheak, or your eyelids, your nose or your finger..it's always been that way though so you accept it..

As the salvinorin A starts to leave the receptor sites the seamlessness starts to depart and you are left somewhere inbetween.."WTF?" you ask yourself, as you realize there even is such a thing as a self..but you really are still unsure of what that is..you might start to freally feak out at this stage and thrasharound in a confused delerium..thinking that the peak salvinorin state was your real reality and that you are being forced away from it into some sort of trip you dont want to take becomming this "human" thing..everything feels hopeless, you feel like your brain in fucked..you cant think any sort of rational linear thought no matter how hard your try, and you feel like the worst trick in the universe is being played on you and everything is in on it..

And then say you come back finally, realize whats just happened, your nearly crying and hanging halfway out your bedroom window..

This is why you want to start with plain leaf preferably. Salvinorin A is extremely powerful stuff. I can not emphasize this enough. Anyone who thinks DMT is more powerful really hasnt had a real salvinorin expereince..and power is not perportional to elegance..DMT is elegant..salvia CAN be..but that doesnt mean she is going to be.

Have a sitter until you know how salvia is going to effect you. I always had one when I first used it and Im glad I did. My first salvia breakthrough is still probabily the most realistic OBE I have ever had.

Brilliantly put. I couldn't agree more. You've just put into words what I've come short of being able to for the past several years.