Which psychadelic is right for me?

[axl617]

My experience is limited, I've tried only LSD and LSA around 10 times, some Aya and cannabis/mdma.

For personal reasons I want to avoid anything that makes me turn further away from the default reality we are born into, I've always loved it, and have had trouble being present in it. If I trip, I want it to build my connection stronger to the world and people in it, not detach me further as one large LSD trip managed to do, scarring me for life but forcing me to become spiritual.

My senses tell me aya and ibogaine are for me given their natural primitive roots (someone once said Ibogaine is the oldest plant known to man). I am weary of trying mushrooms, how different are they from LSD? Any reason LSD is more popular other than year-round availability?

I definitely think DMX, salvia and ketamine are things to avoid, anything that causes me to disassociate can go to hell. So what would be safe for me? Consider I do have a dark persona, and can't handle too much 'weird'.

Also, a post by member Vovin on reasons to not take DMT said something that resonated with me deeply, ' you cannot unlearn what you see, for some at certain points in life ignorance is bliss, adding burden to an already struggling mind will afford no relief.', this has been what I have been going through for a good year, anyone can suggest a way to get some of that ignorance back for calmer nerves I will be indebted to you for life

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Well, first, there's nothing to that idea that Ibogaine is the oldest plant known to man. That sounds like something that someone who was interested in the idea of psychedelics but hadn't done a whole lot of research would say. (Sort of like DMT is released when you're born and when you die).

I think personally, one of the indole psychedelics is where you should be, so that would be DMT and magic mushrooms primarily.
Synthetics like LSD activate highly specific receptors in your brain (5-HT2A and 5-HT2A only). Because of that, they purportedly produce effects that are similar to schizophrenia.

Indole psychedelics however are different: instead of specifically targeting just one receptor, they are just very similar in structure to serotonin so they activate many serotonin receptors. They crate a much more generalized feeling of existential or spiritual well-being, with less emphasis on seeing specific complicated patterns.

Walking home while on LSD caused I was seeing the same puddle over and over again and started to think that it was a mark by some kind of massive conspiracy.
Walking around on mushrooms caused me to see abstract patterns in my thoughts that highlighted the glory of creation and is way harder to put into words.

My experiences with LSD and mushrooms have made me way more in the mushroom camp. The revelations from mushrooms tend be way more personal and abstract: less likely to start encroaching on day-to-day life.

Too much acid would cause me to worry about developing a tinfoil hat mentality. Too many mushrooms would cause me to worry about becoming religious. I'd rather have the religion and all the benefits that go with that.

Blessings
~ND

 

[Jin]

i suggest micro-dosing on psychadelics

 

[Guyomech]

I've had good and bad, useful and scary, educational and confusing... I've had these on acid, shrooms and DMT. Take any psychedelic enough times and you'll experience the whole spectrum.

The shattering experience you had on acid... That could have just as easily happened on shrooms or DMT. The thing is, if you take a sufficient dose of any of these, your comfortable little world will be shattered. For many of us, though, the gain is far greater than the loss. The sense of reality may change, but the ability to appreciate life on a moment-to-moment basis can be enhanced. The sense of connection to others and to the Earth can be strengthened. Fear of death may give way to a solemn acceptance. But yes, these gains do have a cost.

However, you're already headed down the path. You can't un-take the red pill. So: try starting with lower doses, and of which compound I don't know if it matters that much in your case. At 100-200ug of acid or 1-2g of shrooms you should have a beautiful and insightful experience that may help you to come to peace with your devastating acid experience. You can't turn back, you are already changed. Run with it, but start slow and take it easy. Read up on set and setting- that stuff is crucial and has everything to do with the direction the experience takes.

Good luck, happy trails... And welcome to the Nexus.

 

[jamie]

Well, first, there's nothing to that idea that Ibogaine is the oldest plant known to man. That sounds like something that someone who was interested in the idea of psychedelics but hadn't done a whole lot of research would say. (Sort of like DMT is released when you're born and when you die).

I think personally, one of the indole psychedelics is where you should be, so that would be DMT and magic mushrooms primarily.
Synthetics like LSD activate highly specific receptors in your brain (5-HT2A and 5-HT2A only). Because of that, they purportedly produce effects that are similar to schizophrenia.

Indole psychedelics however are different: instead of specifically targeting just one receptor, they are just very similar in structure to serotonin so they activate many serotonin receptors. They crate a much more generalized feeling of existential or spiritual well-being, with less emphasis on seeing specific complicated patterns.

Walking home while on LSD caused I was seeing the same puddle over and over again and started to think that it was a mark by some kind of massive conspiracy.
Walking around on mushrooms caused me to see abstract patterns in my thoughts that highlighted the glory of creation and is way harder to put into words.

My experiences with LSD and mushrooms have made me way more in the mushroom camp. The revelations from mushrooms tend be way more personal and abstract: less likely to start encroaching on day-to-day life.

Too much acid would cause me to worry about developing a tinfoil hat mentality. Too many mushrooms would cause me to worry about becoming religious. I'd rather have the religion and all the benefits that go with that.

Blessings
~ND

LSD is an indole.

Acid is not my ally so I don't use it. Others love it, but w/e that is they're thing. I found mushrooms deeper and more profound personally so I stuck with them, and then DMT and cacti.

Mushrooms, however can make me insane. I always come down but mushrooms are not an easy trip for me at all..they are more difficult than DMT or cacti..but there is special gifts that I get from mushrooms.

Cacti might be the most grounding at medium doses..if grounding to you means you are very much still here in this world interacting with it.

 

[axl617]

I've had good and bad, useful and scary, educational and confusing... I've had these on acid, shrooms and DMT. Take any psychedelic enough times and you'll experience the whole spectrum.

The shattering experience you had on acid... That could have just as easily happened on shrooms or DMT. The thing is, if you take a sufficient dose of any of these, your comfortable little world will be shattered. For many of us, though, the gain is far greater than the loss. The sense of reality may change, but the ability to appreciate life on a moment-to-moment basis can be enhanced. The sense of connection to others and to the Earth can be strengthened. Fear of death may give way to a solemn acceptance. But yes, these gains do have a cost.

However, you're already headed down the path. You can't un-take the red pill. So: try starting with lower doses, and of which compound I don't know if it matters that much in your case. At 100-200ug of acid or 1-2g of shrooms you should have a beautiful and insightful experience that may help you to come to peace with your devastating acid experience. You can't turn back, you are already changed. Run with it, but start slow and take it easy. Read up on set and setting- that stuff is crucial and has everything to do with the direction the experience takes.

Good luck, happy trails... And welcome to the Nexus.

Oh man what I wouldn't give to take a blue pill. I can't say if cause or effect but ever since I took my first hit beginning of 2012 my life went spiraling downhill. Granted I experienced heart-break around this time, I remember my first bad trip smoking weed and paralyzed with sadness. But truthfully, I can't recall a single time I was happy since then. Life used to go by flow, I'd experience various spectrums of emotions and senses. I feel like I was knocked off that path, now I'm just stuck in my little head seeing the world as pointless and people so simple. I can't recall a single important or amazing memory since I took the red pill.

 

[form is emptiness]

Hi axl617

Seems like you want to take both the red pill and the blue pill:surprised

Entheogens can help one form a deeper connection with 'default reality', essentially thru a process of overcoming fears and opening the heart. But you have to work at it, these substances can function like a catalyst for transormation, and with the right set and setting can be intensely carthartic - at least initially. Thru further experiences one may be able to develop a more robust emotional and mental state of calm.

Up to about 2g shrooms in a idyllic setting, on an eyes open trip can perhaps reintroduce you to the simple wonder of it all, strengthening ones appreciation of the natural order, without causing you to lose your marbles.

I too have no inclination for dissociatives. My closest ally is Achuma, but we seldom dance as it requires a greater investment of time, whereas the peak effects of shrooms are much shorter in duration.

Cid is perhaps more popular because of its reputation as a 'party' drug, the convenience of a small form factor, as well as a much lower association as a purgative.

All natural entheogens have the potential to induce a holistic purge, especially when imbided as crude teas or dried specimens, so would likely appeal less to those in it just for the fun of it.

Peace

 

[Mz.Gypzy]

In my opinion pyschedelics like Tryptamines, feel more in tune with the body and mind, they feel good in my system. Natural.

High doses might not be what you want, if you want to stay attached to our "default reality". Maybe start with low dose mushrooms, mescaline or DMT, and see if it is something that you like and wish to continue with.


A large reason I like to use these substances, is because after these experiences, I feel I have a better connection and appreciation for my "default reality" and the people and Myself in it.


Trying not to have set belief systems helps in not having them blown apart with a heavy trip. This is a lesson I am learning at the moment.

 

[Land0n0]

from my own experiences, substances like LSD and 2CI-nBOMe have effects that seem to drone on after a long time, not to say i am not an avid fan of lsd but during the many experiences i have had with it the length usually becomes the issue.

to answer your question on the availability of lsd is the generally higher demand for it, unlike mushrooms which can be expensive people tend to pick the single blotter over the grams upon grams of fungi.

In your current state of mind i would suggest mdma and mda (please be careful where you get them ) due to their mood elevation and elevation of senses, along with DMT and other tryptamines. DMT in a way dissociate ones self from reality but for a short time, during my first DMT trip i didnt know what/where/who i was but as soon as i began coming down the memories returned and i almost felt more in tune with them than i had before.