which substances can lead you to a ++++

[DiMiTriX]

ok i suggest DMT,salvinorin A,dpt,ibogaine,lsd not sure of all

 

[Simplistic Randamonium]

PSILOCIN
high doses for sure...
hmmmm...
MESCALINE/CACTI...
just me if the dose is right.

 

[Xt]

Yopo Snuff
DMT Freebase
LSD (lots)
Ketamine / 2ct7 / LSD Combo

I can remember all those experiences. Tho i wonder if i have what it takes to go back to an experience that intense.

 

[actualfactual]

you can get a ++++ from any drug or even with no drugs at all

the drugs that are able to most reliably produce them are 5-meo-dmt and dmt and ketamine in my experience

 

[benzyme]

2CB
psilocin
lots of mescaline
lots of LSD
DMT
DPT

 

[polytrip]

2CB
psilocin
lots of mescaline
lots of LSD
DMT
DPT

The only ones i'm not familiar with here are DPT and 2CB. Psilocin, DMT, ayahuasca and mescaline are realy capable of bringing you one step beyond of what LSD can do i think.
If the maximum of what LSD is capable of doing can be considered a ++++, then oral cannabis in the right amounts should be mentioned as well, and chaliponga of wich debate is still going on about whether it contains 5-MeO-spice.

 

[Pandora]

Although I have experience with just about everything listed thus far and yeah many of them do induce a convincing 3-D immersive experience, I can honestly only say that N,N,DMT has induced a ++++ in me. Never to be repeated. Never to be forgotten. Useless to chase. :d

 

[dreamer042]

ayahausca: caapi+cruna is the only one that has given swim an experience he considers to be a true ++++