Yellowish DMT

[Kret]

Hello everyone.

I've followed STB method with powdered 50g MHRB, 750ml water and 50g Lye which I let it sit for 3 days.
NPS I used was Naptha. Ive done evaporation test prior the dish was clear with no residue or anything.

Yesterday I've done two pulls (in room temperature) using 40ml naptha each which I put in same flat container and evaporated slightly before sticking it to the freezer. I've noticed it was very cloudy with yellow hint.

Taken it out after 24h, poured the solvent and placed container under the fan. Container was covered with white crystals. I scraped it all with the razor the final product turned out to be fluffy but have a yellow hint.

Is this normal ? Should I carry recrystalization ?

I'm pplanning making DMT carts with the final product.
All help is appreciated.

 

[fractals4life]

That's completely normal ... the very light yellow looks white until you scrape it into a pile and concentrate it.

Cloudy naphtha is a good sign that there is a lot of DMT dissolved in it.

Generally the later pulls that have had the bark sitting in lye for a while get yellower, but it's all still DMT, it just can form in colours all the way from very pale to dark orange, search on this site for the word polymorph to find much discussion (and debate) on how and why this colouration might occur.

I often get fluffy crystals sat on a more solid waxy layer that is more yellow than the crystals.

As far as I know there's no significant pharmacological difference in the different colours, but as with any strong psychedelic, what you believe about it could surely make a difference in the experience.

Have you been water washing your pulls as they come off the soup? Check this thread out: The Base in Your Product it won't change the colour of your final product, but it will give you confidence that any leftover lye is removed. These washes should not be used as a substitute for careful pipetting! I've seen shots on reddit of wash water that is of a murky mahogany shade, eww, the water should end up clear and as colourless as possible.

Good luck!

 

[Tripolation]

Hey Kret.

Looks fine to me as it is. Looks like you did a fine job.

You could certainly do a recrystallization considering you are using it to make carts, although you may be just fine without as well. I recommend using a 1 micron syringe filter for the ejuice.

Good luck!

 

[Kret]

@fractals4life
'I often get fluffy crystals sat on a more solid waxy layer that is more yellow than the crystals.'
Mine was exactly the same when I had a closer look before scrapping it !

I have not done the water wash. When collecting naptha at the start I was checking the pippete to make sure is clear and when got closer to base layer I transferred the pull into smaller, taller container waiting for base to seperate before pulling clear naptha with fresh pippete so was extra careful not to get any lye.

I'm a bit apprehensive when it comes to water washes as I've attempted one years ago and clearly done something wrong as lost almost all the product.
I was planning on purifying product by recrystalization and getting rid of impurities within dissolved dmt soultion in a fresh naptha.

@Tripolation
Thanks for the advice about syringe filter. If neccesary I'm happy to get a few but only found 0.22micron ones available - would those be ok ?

So far I got 500mg after 4 pulls with the last 5th one being currently in the freezer so happy with my first attempt.

Thank you for the help and reassurance!

 

[Ruffles]

Looks great.

You should recrystallize to get the taste and smell of naphta out as much as possible. There are no yield losses. You can always dry the left over solvent from recrystallization to get what was lost to it. You could even just dissolve in some solvent and dry that to force residual naphta out.

 

[Kret]

Looks great.

You should recrystallize to get the taste and smell of naphta out as much as possible. There are no yield losses. You can always dry the left over solvent from recrystallization to get what was lost to it. You could even just dissolve in some solvent and dry that to force residual naphta out.

Thanks Ruffles,
The product doesn't smell of naptha at all. Just a distinctive DMT smell as I remember when done extraction years ago.
I have another bottle with 80g MHRB and once I do 4 extractions from it will combine all the product and do recrystalization of it all following this guide - Re-x -- Recrystallization Pictorial - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Tripolation]

@Tripolation
Thanks for the advice about syringe filter. If neccesary I'm happy to get a few but only found 0.22micron ones available - would those be ok

I would get the 1 micron filters. I would think you would filter out more than you want with .22microns. We just want to smoosh and filter out the solids that may remain in the ejuice so they dissolve fully into a liquid or dissolution.

 

[Kret]

Thanks for all the help.

I also realised I can use my RDA about which I completely forgot I had instead of vape carts.
I have dissolved some spice on warm coil (pic 3) and when ready increased temp and worked pretty well leaving no residue.