Young Datura spp. seed info request

[magickpencil]

SWIM and a friend happened upon what SWIM believes was a Datura stramonium to-day
They were eager to try out 69ron's "Passinoxia" (Passamonium?) mix
The plant was very young, though it had seed pods
I'm wondering if there are known differences in active constituents between younger and older Datura spp. seeds

The seeds in question:

 

[ThirdEyeVision]

That is Datura. It doesn't look ready to harvest though. I think your supposed to wait until it cracks. It will be active, just not sure how active. Start with 3 seeds and see if you feel it.

 

[magickpencil]

I think your supposed to wait until it cracks.

So the pods fruit will ripen and crack open to reveal the seeds

It will be active, just not sure how active. Start with 3 seeds and see if you feel it.

SWIM and some friends drank ≈ one cup of tea steeped from ≈ two Tbsps passionflower foliage each and subsequently thoroughly chewed & swallowed between five and eight (immature) D. stramonium seeds
SWIM felt a mild relaxation and mental contentedness come on over the next 30 minutes

All present comfortably decided to double their respective dose

SWIM and friends drank ≈ one additional cup of passionflower tea each and subsequently thoroughly chewed & swallowed between five and eight additional Datura seeds
SWIM felt more and more relaxed over the next 30 minutes; group conversation naturally turned towards the abstract; SWIM and one friend agreed that there was the physical sensation of being 'part of the flow'

All in all: mild but very, very pleasant; an exceptional treat for facilitating small group conversation
SWIM will definitely try again w mature seeds later this year

 

[SKA]

SWIY oughta be more catious about the amounts of Datura they ingest.

SWIM had been growing a large Datura Inoxia (AKA The Aztec "Toloache/Toloatzin") 2 summers ago from which he collected rediculous amounts of seeds.
He has a jar of perhaps many hundreds of D.Inoxia seeds and very rarely he would mash up 3 to 5 seeds, add this to his tea and go to sleep about 40 minutes later.
This would result in crystal clear, extremely vivid, hyper realistic and coherent dreams that are easily and completely remembered uppon awakening.
Needless to say it also increases the odds of becomming Lucid in a Dream.

This amount was remarkably noticable in terms of physical and perceptual and psychological effects, allthough it was clear it wouldn't go much deeper.
D.Inoxia seeds are strong appearantly. SWIM doesn't know if D.Stramonium seeds are significantly stronger or weaker than D.Inoxia seeds.

But as for D.Inoxia seeds SWIM might even say that 5 seeds is too much and is overkill when it's intended for dream awareness enhancement and 3 seeds is all you need. Off course it also depends on body volume and most of all on what one intends to achieve, utilising the, rather risky energy of Lady Datura.

May SWIM ask you, for what purpose does SWIY seek to explore the effects of Datura?

 

[Ginkgo]

Unripe (white) seeds of Datura stramonium normally contains a higher amount of scopolamine than the ripe (black) seeds. That makes them more like seeds of Datura inoxia. Be very cautious with the identification of the species!

 

[magickpencil]

… for what purpose does SWIY seek to explore the effects of Datura?

SWIM would like to imbibe Datura spp. seeds + passionflower tea in hopes of 'catching the spirit,' or 'getting in the zone'