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1g virola c. fb w/ rue brew for 1st exp...suggetions?

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shunyatason

shunyatason

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looking around the site and decided that 1 g. virola c. resin freebase insulflated 30 mins after rue brew should be a good experiment. got 10 gms on the way and cant wait to try it out. anybody think that too high of a dose for my first shebang. I guess ill find out:surprised
 
shunyatason said:
looking around the site and decided that 1 g. virola c. resin freebase insulflated 30 mins after rue brew should be a good experiment. got 10 gms on the way and cant wait to try it out. anybody think that too high of a dose for my first shebang. I guess ill find out:surprised
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So you plan on using Calcium Hydroxide or something else to freebase the Virola? SWIM has tried insulflating Virola theiodora with both Calcium Hyroxide and Sodium Carbonate. Based on his attempts with that (250mg with Ca(OH)2 and 300mg with Sodium Carbonate) he doesn't think you have a very good chance of getting 1g of that stuff up your nose. It was pretty terrible (especially the Sodium Carbonate). He used only ~6% base per weight of the Resin and abandoned the Sodium Carbonate before getting it all up as it was terrible. Instant crazy sweating and runny nose and all around no good. He couldn't get 4 moderate lines into him before saying "screw this". The Calcium Hydroxide was a little better in that he could suffer through it but doing the same thing 3 more times just does not seem worth it to him. Maybe if you had a traditional long tube that you could have someone else blow into your nose you might be able to suffer through it.

Also I don't know of the top of my head what the dmt content of Vioral c is to comment on what the dosage of that should be. If it comes out to a typical 30-50mg dose of nn-DMT then that should be a pretty safe first go I would think.
 
Good to know about the insulflating route, swim just didn't want to accidentally waste it by screwing up the sub-lingual. yeah the calcium hydroxide seemed to be the most suggested for the Virola Calophylla Resin, while the carbonate for the theodora
 
shunyatason said:
Good to know about the insulflating route, swim just didn't want to accidentally waste it by screwing up the sub-lingual. yeah the calcium hydroxide seemed to be the most suggested for the Virola Calophylla Resin, while the carbonate for the theodora
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It could be worth testing out a small batch of it baseified (like just 100mg with the Ca(OH)2, not much when you have 10g coming your way) before trying to mix with the rue just to see how you react to it, perhaps you will handle it better than SWIM did. The Calcium Hydroxide was certainly easier to deal with than then Sodium Carbonate, but 1g is quite a bit of material to get up your nose without a good delivery system ;)
 
just 100mg of the caylophylla sans rue....that seems like a pretty small dose according to what ive read....but its best to be safe...ure right...do you think a small amount like that would be better insuflated or sublingual.....
 
shunyatason said:
just 100mg of the caylophylla sans rue....that seems like a pretty small dose according to what ive read....but its best to be safe...ure right...do you think a small amount like that would be better insuflated or sublingual.....
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I meant just test out 100mg to see how you react physically to the snorting of the material, not intending it to be an active dose. Just a test run to see what you think about putting 10x that amount up your nose :) That way you don't get bummed out after taking your rue and start to insufflate your virola only to find out that 1g is too much to do.

But again, I don't know proper dose for Virola C. If you read the information and find the % DMT content, once you do decide to dose it go for something that should be in the 30mg range of DMT. So if it is ~3%, then 1g would be good to go.
 
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