2c-i + LSA/LSH

[Crystal Drifter]

First off, I am sorry if this isn't the right spot for this question. But i was wondering if anyone has ever takin HBWR or lsa/lsh with 2c-i.
This weekend i am going to vist my friend for his birthday and we plan on taking 2c-i with some other people at his school. And i was thinking it would be fun to make Sgt Peppers tea and combine the two.

Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has. If so would you mind sharing you insight. I am no stranger to 2c-i but still building a relationship with HBWR.

Is this a bad idea, serious health risk, ect.
What should i expect the effects to be like with the LSH additive.

Thanks for your input in advance.

 

[Lodi]

Hey there, that is a good question. I have a lot of past experience with a lot of RCs, but the most is with 2c-i. I have taken acid with 2c-i multiple times, and let me say in my opinion its not a good idea. even if taken at the same time, you will feel the acid, or lsa/lsh, and then when it wears off 9 hours later all of a sudden you start your 2c-i trip. in my experience RCs do not mix well with any other psychedelic besides DMT. You could try it as far as health risks goes, I dont think it would cause any real threats or problems, I just think the experience wont be anything different than two seperate trips on 2 different drugs consecutively. I think RCs should not be mixed, I believe its a waste, and could cause a bad experience.

 

[shishigami]

Safety wise I would also think you would be fine. LSA/LSH is safe unless you have circulation problems (and those would have to be extreme to be in danger) and 2C-I, while it is a research chem, appears to have a safe track record. As far as the trip goes I can't speak from experience but I assume it would be a bit like Candy-Flipping but slowed down. Lodi seems to think that the LSx will overpower the 2C-I for a while before it hits but I think that can be remedied by playing around with the dose. Unfortunately with LSx you don't really know how much you're getting (unless you have liquid or crystal LSD or have performed prior tests on a batch of HWBR or MG seeds). That also assumes you are measuring out the 2C-I. I feel like the sedation from the LSA could be offset by the 2C-I.

Here's a list of all the trip reports on erowid with LSD and 2C-I

 

[Crystal Drifter]

I too think the sedation would be excluded from the 2c-i. In my few experience with LSA(H) it was always very mild i feel like it would produce a nice electric feel with the 2ci, assuming i get lsh rather then lsa. I was also cosidering have a cup or two of passion flower instead of sgt peppers tea with the 2c-i to see if i get a more visonary trip with the 2ci as people say that passionflower along with other ethogens(cacti,lsd,ect) produce an aya type trip. Have you ever tried that Lodi with your past experience? Or anyone try it?

 

[Lodi]

just last week I made a tea with 2.5 grams of syrian rue 20 mins before dosing on a good hit of acid. I found to have very different visuals than I usually have on acid, and because of the maoi my body was distressed throughout the trip. I found myself laying in bed most of the night, with no urge to really do anything but sit there and think, and watch my ceiling move around on me. In my opinion, which I have gained from my personal experiences, is that it is never a solid idea to mix psychedelics of any kind. even an maoi with something other than ayahuasca in my opinion leaves the tripper in a state where he does not achieve the answers and perspective they are searching for. I think that any psychedelic drug wants to show you the things you see, and that its a kind of discrace to the drug itself to change what it would have shown you. in a way telling the drug it isnt good enough, and that now i have to mix you with something els. I think 2c-i is a great psychedelic, but when I have mixed it with my other favorite RC 2ct2, I was given a rather dificult experience, and did not find it pleasant, but by themselves they can have amazing visuals and amazing foresight into what your doing with your life.

Ultimately it is your choice in mixing drugs, but I feel ashamed when I do, I feel the drug is mad at me for tampering with the gift it is trying to give.

also, maoi will elongate your trip, instead of 8 hours, its 15 hours for example.. just so you know.

 

[Crystal Drifter]

Thank you for your insight.
One thing that i always thought was that passion flower is a very weak MAOI. Am I in the wrong here. I've read that is does contain MAOI's but not enough for a strong noticable effect. Have i read wrong. I know it isn't strong enough to use in pharmas.

 

[Lodi]

I believe it is not as strong as caapi or rue. But, I think that is something you should look into, I am not 100% on that.