5 meo dmt synthesis experiences

[Smoker root]

Hello everyone. I wanted to know your experiencies doing the reduction of mexamine to 5 meo dmt using nabh4. Please share lab notes and any advice thnk!

 

[Brennendes Wasser]

Synthesis talk is not allowed bro :thumb_dow

 

[downwardsfromzero]

2.12 No synthesis talk that uses dangerous/watched chemicals and procedures
Pretty hard to do this synthesis without using some kind of dangerous chemicals, unfortunately. Still, it's a bit of a vague situation considering how discussion of harmaline reduction is tolerated even though, technically, zinc powder is a dangerous substance and so is hydrochloric acid.

Is sodium borohydride more dangerous than that? Maybe about the same, although the use of methanol as a solvent in the reaction adds a toxicity and flammability hazard (in addition to that of the evolution of hydrogen).

You'd need to check local laws to see what is on the list of watched chemicals for your locality.


Didn't Hamilton Morris' video contain enough info for you? What he did was a pretty standard procedure without significant complications. It doesn't particularly even need an inert atmosphere, for example.

Asking for synth advice on this forum tends to rather suggest that you perhaps shouldn't try this, however.

 

[Smoker root]

Is sodium borohydride more dangerous than that? Maybe about the same, although the use of methanol as a solvent in the reaction adds a toxicity and flammability hazard (in addition to that of the evolution of hydrogen).

Didn't Hamilton Morris' video contain enough info for you? What he did was a pretty standard procedure without significant complications. It doesn't particularly even need an inert atmosphere, for example.

I belive it is still a quite dangerous substance but something any amateur can handle. It is not watched.

I saw hamiltons pharmacopedia episode and know the reaction(the same as dmt but different molarities) but will like to know of any experiences

 

[Smoker root]

Synthesis talk is not allowed bro :thumb_dow

But at the end of the day is the only viable option to conserve 5 meo dmt. As hamilton said in the documentary. At least in my country more of it is coming each day, and I know a person that has toads and is worried that they are close to extinction

 

[Mindlusion]

2.12 No synthesis talk that uses dangerous/watched chemicals and procedures
Pretty hard to do this synthesis without using some kind of dangerous chemicals, unfortunately. Still, it's a bit of a vague situation considering how discussion of harmaline reduction is tolerated even though, technically, zinc powder is a dangerous substance and so is hydrochloric acid.

Is sodium borohydride more dangerous than that? Maybe about the same, although the use of methanol as a solvent in the reaction adds a toxicity and flammability hazard (in addition to that of the evolution of hydrogen).
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DFZ is right, this reaction is extremely exothermic, since it relies on massive excess of CH2O and NaBH4, which react with eachother to produce immense heat and hydrogen gas. Which means if it's a runaway, and you dont have ventiliation, it can easily self ignite and kill you. I couldn't in good conscious recommend it to someone without proper experience and knowledge of whats happening... its an easy reaction to screw up, and i've seen better chemists do stupider things

 

[Smoker root]

DFZ is right, this reaction is extremely exothermic, since it relies on massive excess of CH2O and NaBH4, which react with eachother to produce immense heat and hydrogen gas. Which means if it's a runaway, and you dont have ventiliation, it can easily self ignite and kill you. I couldn't in good conscious recommend it to someone without proper experience and knowledge of whats happening... its an easy reaction to screw up, and i've seen better chemists do stupider things

Have you done this reaction? Can you share your lab notes? Experience etc?

 

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2.12 No synthesis talk that uses dangerous/watched chemicals and procedures
Pretty hard to do this synthesis without using some kind of dangerous chemicals, unfortunately. Still, it's a bit of a vague situation considering how discussion of harmaline reduction is tolerated even though, technically, zinc powder is a dangerous substance and so is hydrochloric acid.

Is sodium borohydride more dangerous than that? Maybe about the same, although the use of methanol as a solvent in the reaction adds a toxicity and flammability hazard (in addition to that of the evolution of hydrogen).

You'd need to check local laws to see what is on the list of watched chemicals for your locality.

Didn't Hamilton Morris' video contain enough info for you? What he did was a pretty standard procedure without significant complications. It doesn't particularly even need an inert atmosphere, for example.

Asking for synth advice on this forum tends to rather suggest that you perhaps shouldn't try this, however.

DFZ is right, this reaction is extremely exothermic, since it relies on massive excess of CH2O and NaBH4, which react with eachother to produce immense heat and hydrogen gas. Which means if it's a runaway, and you dont have ventiliation, it can easily self ignite and kill you. I couldn't in good conscious recommend it to someone without proper experience and knowledge of whats happening... its an easy reaction to screw up, and i've seen better chemists do stupider things

To the OP, what's been said has been said for this I think.

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