A tek I have put together.

[LRx]

Hello everyone! I have been on the site for a while now and have only recently made an account.
The reason for this is I am in the process of extracting the molecule, for my own personal discovery reasons.
Also, a couple of friends and I would like to share the molecule to people, and have many trips to come.

I just wanted to share the beta version of my tek that I have put together.
Final version will include results and pictures. All due thanks are in the PDF file.
Just looking for some input on it, as I haven't ever done this before. I have everything listed in the tek.

Anyways, it's getting late. Thanks so much to anyone who reads. I also apologize in advance for any bugs in the tek, it is getting late and I was doing some revisions. As far as I know, it is more than acceptable!

Download link (.pdf) [hosted on my Mediafire account, totally virus free- made totally on my Mac]:
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Peace.

 

[LRx]

Anyone?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

yup, that's an a/b extraction alright.

 

[LRx]

yup, that's an a/b extraction alright.

Would you say that I am going about this in the right way? Any recommendations?

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

I think what Parshvik Chintan is saying is that your Tek is redundant. It looks fine to me, it should work like a charm (although I didn't read it all the way through), but it's already been devised.

There are plenty of A/B extraction Teks out there, and this doesn't bring anything radically new to the table.

Still though, if you were working in a vacuum and managed to work all of that out using just your own chemistry knowledge, then you're awesome. If that's the case, there are a number of problems that we as a community are working now. The two biggest being how to separate N,N-DMT and 5-Meo-DMT, as well as removing beta-carbolines from a Phalaris grass.

 

[LRx]

Thank you for your reply. I understand that it brings nothing new to the table. I just wanted to simplify the process for the people that I am working with, and possibly anyone else who may stumble upon it.
It's good to know that it should work well! That's all I needed.

Thank you again for your reply.

 

[Fungaai]

Hi LRx,

I have had a quick look through your tek and one thing I suggest is don't use Ronsonol. Use Zippo fluid for the naphtha. Iot is more expensive, but WAY more pure than either Clipper or Ronsonol.

For a really good MHRB extraction, SWIM suggests STB and then use Xylene for the initial pulls and evap. This gets most alkaloids out in one go and you end up with a brownish red goo. SWIM then dissolves the all the seperate goos from seperate pulls in acetone, combines and evaps the acetone off. The follow a naphtha recrystallisation to get all the DMT out of the goo. SWIM gets on average about 1.5 to 2g of DMT out of 50g of MHRB this way.

Why go through the work of the acid part if you don't have to? STB works really well on MHRB.

 

[LRx]

Hi LRx,

I have had a quick look through your tek and one thing I suggest is don't use Ronsonol. Use Zippo fluid for the naphtha. Iot is more expensive, but WAY more pure than either Clipper or Ronsonol.

For a really good MHRB extraction, SWIM suggests STB and then use Xylene for the initial pulls and evap. This gets most alkaloids out in one go and you end up with a brownish red goo. SWIM then dissolves the all the seperate goos from seperate pulls in acetone, combines and evaps the acetone off. The follow a naphtha recrystallisation to get all the DMT out of the goo. SWIM gets on average about 1.5 to 2g of DMT out of 50g of MHRB this way.

Why go through the work of the acid part if you don't have to? STB works really well on MHRB.

Thank you so much for your reply, Fungaai.
I have read everything you have said and I am intrigued. Should SWIM go and purchase the Xylene in the 3.8L jug from Home Depot? (in Canada here, a lot of stuff was hard to find)
SWIM already has everything listed in my posted tek.
Should SWIM use Xylene instead of Zippo?
Also, should SWIM use Cyb's tek as STB?
Thanks again for your educated reply.

I apologize for the bombardment of questions, but myself and SWIM included don't want to mess this up.

 

[wearepeople]

Should SWIM use Xylene instead of Zippo?
Also, should SWIM use Cyb's tek as STB?

Xylene pulls a different range of goodies from the root bark. Typically people pull with naphtha first then pull with xylene to get the remaining full spectrum. Keep in mind, Xylene smells very strong. Be sure you have extremely good (outdoor) ventilation away from neighbors. Also, its been recommended to wash Xylene-pulled-DMT with Acetone.

Cyb's tek is an A/B-STB hybrid. Essentially its a hybrid because its similar to a STB but there's and acidification step.

Hope this helps!
wearepeople

 

[Fungaai]

Hi LRx,

This is what SWIM does:

Equipment:

1x funnel
cotton wool
NAOH
Zippo fluid/Naphtha
Xylene - from a hardware store is fine
Acertone
700ml or thereabout Kethup bottle or any bottle with a tapered neck
1x smallish glass evap dish
1 pyrex wide baking dish
Turkey baster or siphoning pipe
1x whiskey tumbler for recrystallise


Mix 37.5g of NAOH with 500ml of water
Pour into Ketchup bottle
Add 50g coffee ground root bark
Shake bottle
Stand for about an hour
Add 50ml xylene
Shake bottle. Do not shake to hard or long, else you will get some weird emulsions.
Wait for seperation and shake again.
Shake like this for 12 hours.
Add another 50ml of Xylene and follow the same 12 hour procedure

After the 2nd 12 hours let it seperate out nicely. Get your funnel and stick a nice wad of cotton wool inside.
Put the funnel over a glass container that will hold it easily
Siphon off the yellowish Xylene. Cotton wool funnel is there in case you get some bark water in by mistake during the process. Pour a bit of clear xylene through the funnel to make sure you get everything.
Repeat the Xylene pull process above again.

Pour all your Yellow xylene into the baking dish and evaporate.
SWIM found that sticking the dish in the sun for a day worked quicker and with less stinky house than fan evap.
Once no xylene can be smelled, you are done. There should be a sticky reddish-brown jungle left in the tray.

This next acetone part is just to get the jungle from the evap tray into that smallish recrystallisation dish and clean it.

Use about 40ml of acetone. Get your washed funnel ready with new cotton wool. Pour acetone into the tray and make sure all the goo dissolves.
Pour this jungle acetone through the funnel. This takes out any dust, sticks, insects that might've gotten into the jungle during evap.

Fan evap the acetone jungle until it gets really sticky and gooey again. You mustn't smell any acetone.

Now to get the DMT out of the jungle, you need to recrystallise.

This is what SWIM does:

Get kettle and bring to boil
Place your jungle dish into a hot water bath
Place Zippo bottle in another bath to heat up
The jungle will get all runny again
Pour 15ml into the jungle dish and mix thouroughly
Keep replacing the hot water to keep things hot
After stirring thouroughly, pour the now DMT bearing Zippo fluid into the whiskey tumbler taking care not to get any jungle in.
Repeat this about 5 times or so.
You will see the jungle will get much darker and less runny the more you repeat this.
Pour all the DMT Zippo fluid into the same glass.
Cover glass with foil and use an elastic to keep on.
Let this stand and cool naturaly to room temp for 3+ hours.
You might start seeing crystals form by then.
Put in fridge for a couple hours.
Then freezer for 48 hours.
By now you will see the bottom of the glass is covered in DMT.

Remove from fridge. Pour off the Zippo fluid into a bottle for reuse.
Put back the foil and stand upside down in fridge for a few hours.
Remove from fridge and evaporate til no Zippo fluid can be smelled.

Now scrape and smoke.

You can clean it further by recrystallisin again if you like, but SWIM finds that is good enough to smoke or use on changa.

Seems like a long process, but it saves cost as xylene is cheaper and Zippo fluid is reused. Also partience pays off. SWIM was only getting half the DMT out when he was rushing in the beginning.

 

[Fungaai]

The end product of the above is nice white DMT. The jungle is also psychedelic, but you will have gotten most of the NNDMT out with the recrystallisation step. If the end product is not as pure as you like, you can recrystallize a second time to get it even whiter. You can always use the jungle to make changa as well.

 

[LRx]

Thanks so much for the replies. I really appreciate the time you have took to respond.
I am taking everything you have said into consideration and I can't thank you enough for sharing.
I will definitely be altering my process and posting results!
Once again, thank you.

 

[wearepeople]

Hi LRx,

I must say I'm impressed you made a TEK. Though the concepts present nothing new, its wonderful for your own learning and understanding that you went through with writing a detailed TEK.

Well Done!

"Yes" vote from me!

 

[LRx]

Thank you wearepeople!

I have definitely taught myself a lot in the process and it has been a great learning and life experience so far!
SWIM will be ready to extract in about 2 weeks. eep!

 

[DMTripper]

....SWIM gets on average about 1.5 to 2g of DMT out of 50g of MHRB this way.

!!!!
Ok, I've never heard of so much yield. Nothing quite near actually. I think I've heard of around 2.5% max. So I'm very curious where you buy your rootbark! This is crazy yield my friend

 

[LRx]

....SWIM gets on average about 1.5 to 2g of DMT out of 50g of MHRB this way.

!!!!
Ok, I've never heard of so much yield. Nothing quite near actually. I think I've heard of around 2.5% max. So I'm very curious where you buy your rootbark! This is crazy yield my friend

I was going to say this- an amazing yield indeed! One can only hope for such a yield. :d

 

[Fungaai]

I have a friend in my neck of the woods that I get from. If I understand him correctly he is sourcing it from somewhere in Europe, but he isn't sharing.

SWIM certainly have not been getting such a yield from day 1. I think SWIM was getting less than 1g of white per 100g at the start if I remember correctly. SWIM found that the longer he took with the Xylene pulls, the more he got out. Also the more naphtha recrystallisation pulls he performed on the jungle, the more he got out. The best yield he has managed to date is 6.3g of white spice from 130g MHRB. His personal record.

And maybe he got lucky with the last 2kg of MHRB he managed to get.

 

[DMTripper]

Well I think you have some mutant bark there.

I now always get 2-2.2% yield. After 6-7 years of extracting.
But I usually do not do so long pulls. Next time I'll do them for longer, see how much my yield increases