A way to "E-mesh-fy" a dry herbs vaporizer?

[windyshaman]

Some context: I've been using one and as of recently - a couple of identical, portable dry herbs vaporizers for my DMT practices - for over a year now.
And I have it nailed down well enough at this point to be able to talk about repeatable results.
Now - normally - I layer spice with camomille, but lately I was eye-balling an e-mesh rig and it gave me an idea.
I sorta tried it already back when I was experimenting with a desktop setup, but it didn't do much at the time... well, the whole thing didn't do much for me - period.

So here's what I changed Today for an earlier session:
- instead of filling half the chamber with camomille - I only added a small layer of ~1/8" on the bottom (and this was more of a precaution to have something absorbing and prevent spice leakage at full temperature)
- and then I added a stack of pipe mesh screens of the exact chamber's size, about 3/4 of the way up
- added spice
- filled the rest of the available volume with more screens (not sure about the total, about 16-20 easily)

Had the temperature maxed out to 221C, let it sit for about 30-45 secs...
Inhale...
This is a little harsher than with camomille, but that first full inhale did hit so hard...

Outcome:
- I've definitely broken through on a much lower dosage than is required usually (70mg vs 100mg)
- overall today's trips felt a lot stronger
- comedown was a little more abrupt as there wasn't much left in vaporizers to surf on the way down... bone dry after a few real hits
- I'm really impressed
- will try to eliminate camomille altogether next time, see if there's any leakage from the chamber

 

[RitualOpossum]

nice - hey thanks for sharing @windyshaman it's always cool learning new device techniques and tips for devices - thnx for reporting

 

[brettsta]

Had the temperature maxed out to 221C, let it sit for about 30-45 secs...
Inhale...
This is a little harsher than with camomille, but that first full inhale did hit so hard...

Outcome:
- I've definitely broken through on a much lower dosage than is required usually (70mg vs 100mg)
- overall today's trips felt a lot stronger
- comedown was a little more abrupt as there wasn't much left in vaporizers to surf on the way down... bone dry after a few real hits
- I'm really impressed
- will try to eliminate camomille altogether next time, see if there's any leakage from the chamber

Hi there , my technique can be a bit similar to yours , I need to use a gauze With my volcano hybrid vape , but I keep my temperature around 170-180c. much smoother transition in , but got to be patient and let it get to full vaporization , like you said 30 - 60 sec ish .
Found at 210 c the ride in can be a little ferocious and a little harsh .

The last time I done 100mg I regretted it !! One of my more scarry journeys . !! Very interesting but would rather not go there again
Now I do 40 mg if Im using my one or two hit pufco ( normally in bed)
Or 70mg if I'm using volcano and want to " surf my way down "
I will sometimes have my pufco ready to go as a back up ,
for some nice big waves .

Happy days 🫯

 

[RitualOpossum]

I hear doses like 100 mg can cause blackouts. I'm prolly apt to explore 15-30 maybe even 40 mg doses when i get to extracting. I think that a sub-ohm device is fit for me but I wish i had an e-mesh setup too. I heard because of regulations its difficult to acquire the parts

 

[brettsta]

I hear doses like 100 mg can cause blackouts. I'm prolly apt to explore 15-30 maybe even 40 mg doses when i get to extracting. I think that a sub-ohm device is fit for me but I wish i had an e-mesh setup too. I heard because of regulations its difficult to acquire the parts

Yes 100mg in one pull is not a good idea, prob will blackout or like in my case be to much to cope with ! and probably be a wast .
A one pull machine like a e-mesh isn't designed for that . ( Using the wire element)

But a dry herb machine like a volcano or a Ariser solo stays on for 10 min+ and goes to low temp and takes time to totally vaporize. Usually there is some left after the initial pulls , to go again 5 minutes in .
Especially if you wack the temperature up .

 

[windyshaman]

I hear doses like 100 mg can cause blackouts. I'm prolly apt to explore 15-30 maybe even 40 mg doses when i get to extracting. I think that a sub-ohm device is fit for me but I wish i had an e-mesh setup too. I heard because of regulations its difficult to acquire the parts

What you hear largely depends on the administration method... and one's familiarity with spice. People are blasting off in other dimensions on 10-30mg with e-juice rigs, e-mesh seems to be requiring a bit more... but a dry herbs setup is inherently wasteful and inefficient. I usually start getting CEV-s ~50mg, 70mg is where the reality starts shimmering and 90-100mg is the threshold where I'm breaking through and can't distinguish what's more real - CEV-s or OEV-s... I don't recall blacking out, but I do recall once - I had to "re-teach" my self - that I need to breath. Meshy-fying a dry herbs vaporiser seem to be more efficient, at least - that's what I brought out from this experiment.