alchoholism and dmt after abstinence

[SoulCrushingBass]

On 3-24-11 I had a oral dose of 155mg freebase with 3g ground Syrian rue. It was not visual as it was introspective. I was shown the subtle issues I've caused in my family being an alcoholic. I've always felt ok drinking because Im a functioning alcoholic, no missed work, no self embarrassment, etc, so I've felt ok not remembering the last day I didn't drink. I haven't had a drink since that night. It was a pretty painful, guilt leaden trip that had the power to make me decide to stop completely. As I understand, after a month brain chemistry starts to go back to normal. My question is has anyone else quit drinking, primarily, has it changed the effects of dmt to those who have done it after alchohol abstinence?

 

[۩]

I've had trips that kicked my alcoholic ass and I haven't drank in over 1.5 years now. For me, hyperspace with no alcohol in the system is just that much more rewarding, knowing that that crap is just long gone. It feels really good IMO, congratulations on making the change, and experiment with DMT and see if it's any different...let us know

 

[olympus mon]

About 4 years back I refinanced my home and checked into a treatment center for opiate addiction. It was at the peak of my dmt use as well and I always knew id return to dmt at some point but chose to be totally clean and sober for 1 year after rehab. When I did break out the VG again it was a hard decision for me. I didn't want it to make me crave the other drugs and alcohol again so I put a lot of thought into the decision before i took that step.

When I vaped again for the first time I really didn't like it. Not because of the dmt but it instantly brought me back to the weeks just before I left for treatment. The month or 2 before rehab were some of the worst of my life. I was such a slave to Opiates and hated my life. Dmt was the only thing that kept me going at that time in many ways connecting me to spirit and higher forces for support. But when I vaped again it just felt like I was right back in that time period before rehab and I pulled myself out of hyperspace and put dmt away for a couple more months.

I eventually returned to dmt comfortably. I do drink and smoke weed now and have relapsed a few times with opiates over the 4 years since treatment after a surgery that required me to be on medications but never quite the addict I once was. Its not something im proud of but it is a part of me none the less. Im human and do my best in life. I know the day is coming that I will put alcohol and cannabis down but at the moment Im not ready to do that. I don't drink in excess nor is it a problem but Im aware enough to admit is is a type of escape for me.

So dmt did change for a while but levelled out eventually. Congratulations on quitting drinking on your own. People that can do that freaking amaze me. there was no way I could. I tried quitting literately every single day for about 3 years. Id use for a few days, detox on my weekends then succumb to the temptation once I was done kicking. It was so insane and frustrating as well as illogical but that is what addiction is. I too was a functioning addict, business owner successful artist and home owner. In fact only 1 of my close friends even knew of my addiction. Idtrvlr, and he supported and helped me through it all. I was a classic case closet addict and my friends were shocked when i told them the truth and went to treatment.

Good topic. thanks
OM'

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I've had trips that kicked my alcoholic ass and I haven't drank in over 1.5 years now. For me, hyperspace with no alcohol in the system is just that much more rewarding, knowing that that crap is just long gone. It feels really good IMO, congratulations on making the change, and experiment with DMT and see if it's any different...let us know

Thanks. I will let you know when I do. I don't know if I'm waiting for a calling to it or just working up the nerve. Weather is getting nice it won't be long till Its time for a good nature smoke. I just started with dmt this fall, haven't had it in warm weather yet.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Congratulations on quitting drinking on your own. People that can do that freaking amaze me. there was no way I could. I tried quitting literately every single day for about 3 years.

Good topic. thanks
OM'

I wouldn't call it on my own, though it was my decision. I've tried many times and couldn't make it one day. I couldn't limit kyself, make deals or rewards or anything. It was the mimoextractahuasca that put the fear and love in me to do this for me and my loving wife and children

 

[tetra]

I quit drinking a few days before trying DMT for the first time. That was a year and a half ago and I've never once wanted so much as a sip of beer since (though wine was my booze of choice) . No more blackouts . . . well, I've had a couple DMT-related blackouts but that's another story.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Well I smoked again and it was good. Not really different than before, actually just about identical, just with more clarity, which could be coming from the fact that I keep visiting the same place, some house or home. It was inhabited, but I was more like a ghost. I tried asking, where am I, when am I? There was communication to me. It was like a future home. Not much different, just different trim and some wierd changes in physics, the world itself was different. It's nice to keep visiting this house, because it makes it easier to remember the details.

 

[Pup Tentacle]

I drank like a fish before my kids were born - I'm not a huge drinker any more, but have always enjoyed beer and often getting somewhat drunk. I started with spice about a month ago, and have had 2 beers since. I still love the taste of good beer, but find the buzz has become a vile and profane feeling within me when I do it.

My main squeeze has always been cannabis and since my first DMT exp... have cut WAY back because it seems to slow me down, kind of hazes me over. LOL, I know, that's kind of why I enjoyed to begin with, but it just seems groovier on my consciousness to do it less and respect when I'm doing it - just not haphazardly to keep myself in a constant haze.

I guess since expanding the exploration of my consciousness... exploration of my un-conscious seems, well, stupid since I do it every night for 8 hours.

 

[Dreamwalker]

Congratulations on quitting. :thumb_up:

I too know what its like to be a functioning alcoholic. Funny thing is after my first few major breakthroughs with DMT I almost felt like I needed to drink more.

It was as if everything thought I knew as fact was tossed right out the window!
I had a really hard time with integration of my experiences. I knew that I really enjoyed what DMT had showed me but at the same time it scared the hell out of me!!

I found myself so full of anxiety every time I was about to vape some spice that I literally had to drink just to take the edge off. unfortunately I learned that alcohol and DMT didn't really synergize well together. I found myself having darker/scarier experiences. getting stuck in loops and thinking I had gone insane! Soon after as the drinking increased I found myself denied access to hyperspace all together. Blacking out or having nothing happen at all. This made me really sad.

I knew in my heart that I needed some kind of support other than alcohol if I were going to continue using DMT. That's one of the major reasons I joined The Nexus. It helped me a lot reading about other peoples experiences and confirmed to me that it was most likely the alcohol to blame for my experiences turning out the way they did.

I never totally quit drinking but I did cut it out a lot and took a long break from DMT. I promised myself that I would never mix the two again.

My first time vaping some spice again sober was really scary for me and it took a lot of meditation and breathing exercises to relax. Funny thing is when I came back from hyperspace I wondered what in the hell I was so afraid of! Sure some of the experiences since have been scary but I think the alcohol made it much worse for me.

so yeah, congratulations on not drinking anymore and I hope it sticks for you. It's a hard thing to quit an addiction.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Thank you all for your input and sharing. I have had a drink since but actually for the taste. I've noticed after a few I don't like the feeling of being drunk. I can't even do simple things and wonder how I managed to do anything drunk. I have been using cannibis as a crutch because I just like being buzzed and needed help with the insomnia while detoxing. I did have a drink before vaping as well, I really needed help calming my nerves, which thc does not mix well with anxiety at all. It's weird finding being real drunk so repulsive when I used to look forward to it daily.

 

[5th Dimensional]

I think this is a very important, unspoken topic. I do not drink every day, but I like to drink at least 10-12 beers every few days, so I am a binge drinker, it is common in my area and culture (I know, just another excuse). But I have also found myself drinking more often after having all of what I thought I ever knew was shown to be inaccurate, especially in the beginning. I was told by Dr. Steve Barker that blasting off can cause depression, therefore it is easy to deduce the drinking. I drank for many months after my first blast offs…but after around 60 times (from low-high doses), I am more used to it now and I can handle it much more. But if you are already experiencing anxiety for personal reasons, then DMT can really mess and mix up an already scattered or fractured mind, therefore drugs and drinking can follow because integration can become nearly impossible. I don’t know…I suppose one should only do blast-offs with a healthy, sober, reasonable mind – plus diet, exercise (especially cardio), and all that good stuff too.

I smoked DMT a few times while drunk and I felt the blood pressure rush and was immobilized, but saw absolutely nothing. One of those times I thought I had accidentally killed myself (smoking after 14 beers), I could see my ‘soul’ being yanked-out of my body, but it was chained down to me and hanging on, I fought the whole entire time, this lasted for a full five or so minutes - one of the worst experiences of my life. It made me terrified of smoking again for a long time. If that had happened while I was sober, I could have dealt with it some way as I did in the past, but I guess your mind is too weak with alcohol.

Anyway, alcohol to numb such literally mind-blowing experiences must be more common than we think I bet, but I know that the experiences are much better without alcohol, or having had alcohol for at least a number of days.

I’m sure the alien or higher-dimensional entities would not be proud of us becoming alcoholics after blast-offs. I’m sure that could label us as bad students or poor receivers of such divine, seemingly top-secret information.

Peace, and I hope your journey with alcoholism goes well, as I hope I can be well myself one day…