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Amanita Pantherina dosages

psychonautacid said:
harmala peganium is "Адыраспан" in our language. Amanita is from Russian friend I guess. Psilocybin mushrooms once a year in my country from Estonia ... Thats pretty sad :(

Thanks for all! Ill go to the bazaar tomorrow or on the weekends, i hope ill find syrian rue seeds :(
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Harmala is in your blood, and it's part of your culture. You'll see it yourself if you work with it for some time.
You live in a beautiful land with lots of sacred plants around. No need to buy something from abroad; just educate yourself and create a life where you are right now.
Don't let late soviet propaganda and the modern economic situation influence you. Look deeper, and you'll find lots of beauty and opportunity.
This path is not about getting high, but about getting wise. May you find what you need 🙏
 
Prima Materia said:
If there is a zoroastrian community in your country you might further your chances of locating it.
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Most of these countries ending in stan have Harmala growing there, and it's part of their indigenous culture. They were Buddhist, before Muslims conquered them. For instance, Pakistan was a hotspot of tantric Buddhism. There are lots of old sites there, although the current rule destroyed a fair share of them. The sacredness of rue remains unchanged, though.
 
psychonautacid said:
harmala peganium is "Адыраспан"
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Fantastic, thanks! "Adyraspan"… Another one for the list. The fact that you have a seemingly unique local name for the seeds seems most propitious, although the -aspan is clearly just the same as "esfand"/"aspand"/"sfand"/"sbant" classic of the central Asia macroregion. What does the "Adyr(a)-" part mean, though?

If (when!) you find some at the bazaar, it would be great if you could upload a picture of the forms available, if at all possible.
 
Transform said:
Fantastic, thanks! "Adyraspan"… Another one for the list. The fact that you have a seemingly unique local name for the seeds seems most propitious, although the -aspan is clearly just the same as "esfand"/"aspand"/"sfand"/"sbant" classic of the central Asia macroregion. What does the "Adyr(a)-" part mean, though?

If (when!) you find some at the bazaar, it would be great if you could upload a picture of the forms available, if at all possible.
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1. Adyr-Aspan (Hill-Sky)

  • Adyr (адыр): This is an old Kazakh word meaning "hill," "elevation," or "upland."
  • Aspan (аспан): This word means "sky" or "heaven."
In this interpretation, the name could be a poetic description of the plant's habitat or its connection to the natural world, potentially meaning the plant that links the "hill and the sky," or the "mountain and the sublime." This aligns with its traditional sacred use.

2. Adyr-Aspan (Almighty Sky / Persian Connection)

  • Adyr (адыр): Some scholars consider this part to be a derivative of the Arabic word qadyr (قادر), meaning "almighty" or "powerful."
  • Aspan (аспан): Still meaning "sky" or "heaven."
Under this view, the compound word would semantically translate to "Almighty Sky," which fits its long-standing ceremonial use in purification rites (alastau) in Central Asia, where the smoke is used to cleanse a space of bad spirits and connect with a higher power.

Connection to Persian (Espand/Ispand)

It is also important to note that Peganum harmala is known across the former Persian empire by names like Espand, Ispand, or Esfand.
One theory suggests that the Kazakh Adyraspan could be an indigenized version that combines the Kazakh word Adyr ("hill") with the local variation of the Persian name (-aspan or -aspand), meaning it might originally have meant the "hill-variety of aspand/Syrian rue."
In any case, the etymology of Adyraspan reflects the plant's sacred status in Central Asian culture, where it is burned as incense to ward off the evil eye and purify spaces.

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northape said:
Harmala is in your blood, and it's part of your culture. You'll see it yourself if you work with it for some time.
You live in a beautiful land with lots of sacred plants around. No need to buy something from abroad; just educate yourself and create a life where you are right now.
Don't let late soviet propaganda and the modern economic situation influence you. Look deeper, and you'll find lots of beauty and opportunity.
This path is not about getting high, but about getting wise. May you find what you need 🙏
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how harmala feels btw? just curious and i seriously wanna work with that
 
psychonautacid said:
how harmala feels btw? just curious and i seriously wanna work with that
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You will have many reactions in the beginning. It will cleanse your body and spirit. At higher doses above 4g, it becomes quite visual, like dreaming while awake. It relaxes and soothes your body, boosts longevity and fertility. The day after your session may be filled with a sense of well-being. All in all, the essence of harmala is pure love. It is a portal to the divine realm that exists in your own heart. Try to research where it grows in your area and harvest it yourself in the future.

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northape said:
You will have many reactions in the beginning. It will cleanse your body and spirit. At higher doses above 4g, it becomes quite visual, like dreaming while awake. It relaxes and soothes your body, boosts longevity and fertility. The day after your session may be filled with a sense of well-being. All in all, the essence of harmala is pure love. It is a portal to the divine realm that exists in your own heart. Try to research where it grows in your area and harvest it yourself in the future.
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im gonna go to the bazaar soon definitely.
i miss my LSD-love feeling
 
Yes Muscaria is known to be much safer than Panthera but you should be really cautious with Muscaria too !

A long time ago i was in the woods and found a Panthera , i only took one of the small white "dot" of the hat , put it under my tongue , that was strong , rather pleasant but STRONG , probably weighted 0,0001 of a gram !

I have done strong LSD before and seem to have a robust threshold with drugs ...

For your own sake don't do it !
As previously said , they are not hallucinogenic mushrooms like Psylo ones ...
 
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You're not going to get any dose of Muscaria or Pantherina to serve as a fill-in for 170ug of LSD. Way inaccurate to get this idea.
If you want to test out the Pantherina waters, I'd suggest staying at a gram or under,
and that if you try to consume a much higher amount to achieve an overwhelming experience
it may be regretful and unpleasant.

For me, using Amanitas is like utilizing a very dark transparency to help me understand more of the workings of the subconsciousness and it's processes.
They've been helpful, but not in any tryptamine replacement sort of way.
It's really not worth it to make yourself sick because you can't acquire more LSD.
 
northape said:
You won't get the same tryptamine feeling with harmala, but it will provide a more balanced love, the kind of love that you can bring back with you in day-to-day life. It could be the beginning of a lifelong journey with a plant that grows by itself near you.
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can you please tell me some ways how to take this beautiful plant ? and how often?
 
psychonautacid said:
can you please tell me some ways how to take this beautiful plant ? and how often?
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This forum is rich with threads that discuss this question. I encourage you to dig in the forums, you will be rewarded.
Recently this thread has been very active.

Usually people make teas, or chew on the seeds. Dosages vary from very tiny amounts to several grams. With exploration and experience one finds the proper dosages for one's intended purposes. Some people take them daily for a number of days or just take them as a one time experience. Like said before, take some time and search the forums.

Any news from the bazzar?
 
Prima Materia said:
This forum is rich with threads that discuss this question. I encourage you to dig in the forums, you will be rewarded.
Recently this thread has been very active.

Usually people make teas, or chew on the seeds. Dosages vary from very tiny amounts to several grams. With exploration and experience one finds the proper dosages for one's intended purposes. Some people take them daily for a number of days or just take them as a one time experience. Like said before, take some time and search the forums.

Any news from the bazzar?
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upd. im in my ride to the bazaar now. ill keep you updated. but if im not gonna find the seads, but only plant, can i do something with it?
 
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