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Amanita Pantherina dosages

😊 There you go ! I'm waiting for some too . It's going to be my first time as well !

A tea might be a good tek i suppose ... :unsure:
 
psychonautacid said:
i chewed fresh seeds.. like 2 grams ... almost vomited ... im waiting for it effect... im so excited
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Sakkadelic said:
Only take 1-2 g for your first time
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I would go for 1–2 g in the beginning. Maybe even start as low as 0.5g. It will produce some nausea, and that is totally fine. With time, you will get a cleaner bodily response. Do not expect anything right away; keep working with it.
 
psychonautacid said:
i wanna try some good dosage and tell my full 2-3 days experience in full..
how much chewed and eaten seeds (solo without anything else) should lead me to DECENT visual effects?
@Sakkadelic @northape @dithyramb

and question, is making tea better than chew the seeds?
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Don't go over 4g as a beginner. You'll end up vomiting for hours, and it's very exhausting. 3g should give you a decent feel for it.

Eating seeds will always be stronger. Given your limited supply, I'd just chew them. You can always grind some seeds in a coffee grinder and cook them in water for about 30 minutes. Strain and reduce to a drinking amount. I'd only go the tea route when you can get hold of a few hundred grams. The tea experience could be easier, but not by much. Consistent work with low doses is the way. Like I said before, even 0.5g should give some effects. Go low and slow.

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northape said:
You can always grind some seeds in a coffee grinder and cook them in water for about 30 minutes.
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I've often brewed single cups of finely ground seeds simply by putting 1 tsp into a paper tea bag, adding a tiny scoop of ascorbic acid and pouring over 300mL of boiling water. Steeping for 5 minutes seems to get about 90% of the actives out - a second brew on the same seeds show significantly diminished fluorescence, but can still be used to give a small top-up dose.

I should probably boil the already twice-brewed leftover seeds just to confirm the efficacy of steeping, but when comparing boiling a kettle a couple of times versus running a hob for half an hour or more it should be easy to see which uses the least energy.

I'd go so far as to say that a long boil on finely powdered seeds is probably overkill, and the energy put into grinding the seeds as finely as possible for a whole seed brew is a good investment. Whole seeds seem to hang on to the alkaloids rather more tenaciously, letting them seep out gradually after multiple boils.

[It should be noted that whole seeds are the way to go when extracting and isolating the harmala alkaloids, however.]

I even got rather a surprise trip once after saving up a week's worth of 'spent' whole seeds - each portion having been brewed at least three times - and it turned out to be way more than a single dose, with visual trailing and auditory reverb effects. That made for an interesting band practice!
 
Transform said:
I've often brewed single cups of finely ground seeds simply by putting 1 tsp into a paper tea bag, adding a tiny scoop of ascorbic acid and pouring over 300mL of boiling water. Steeping for 5 minutes seems to get about 90% of the actives out - a second brew on the same seeds show significantly diminished fluorescence, but can still be used to give a small top-up dose.

I should probably boil the already twice-brewed leftover seeds just to confirm the efficacy of steeping, but when comparing boiling a kettle a couple of times versus running a hob for half an hour or more it should be easy to see which uses the least energy.

I'd go so far as to say that a long boil on finely powdered seeds is probably overkill, and the energy put into grinding the seeds as finely as possible for a whole seed brew is a good investment. Whole seeds seem to hang on to the alkaloids rather more tenaciously, letting them seep out gradually after multiple boils.

[It should be noted that whole seeds are the way to go when extracting and isolating the harmala alkaloids, however.]

I even got rather a surprise trip once after saving up a week's worth of 'spent' whole seeds - each portion having been brewed at least three times - and it turned out to be way more than a single dose, with visual trailing and auditory reverb effects. That made for an interesting band practice!
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Thanks for this info. I've only started to grind my seeds recently, and usually cooked whole seeds for 30 min.
It seems like powdered seeds are even easier in preparation. Noted.

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northape said:
Thanks for this info. I've only started to grind my seeds recently, and usually cooked whole seeds for 30 min.
It seems like powdered seeds are even easier in preparation. Noted.

Baby Thank You GIF
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One more thing which may help with maximising one-off steeping efficiency is to use a tall latte glass, so the first hot water runs away from the wetted powder entirely, pulling alkaloids out from the interior of the granules through equilibrium pressure, driven further by the subsequent setting up of a density gradient once the glass is full.

Tea brewing can be a great mindfulness practice! … except I now wish I'd not just stated that last bit, since it makes me feel like I should be grinding my seeds by hand.
 
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