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Yah, what snoz said.

Muscomil is eXTREMELY resistant to heat. And the only way to convert ibotenic acid to muscomil is!!!!........(searches wikipedia for a second) DECARBOYXLATION! which essentially is removing CO2 (flame does it :))

I actually enjoy the tea, and the tops (sometimes called SOMA). It is not a super visual experience.. more of a body relaxation/stoning effect... for me anyways.

-gir
 
Gir said:
I actually enjoy the tea, and the tops (sometimes called SOMA). It is not a super visual experience.. more of a body relaxation/stoning effect... for me anyways.

I actually also enjoy the schnaps made of them. It is also very relaxing. If you drink it before bed, you will have wonderful dreams and almost some sort of "priapism" in the morning (if you're male), a lot stronger and longer lasting than the usual "morning wood". And the relaxing effect lasts until afternoon - quite nice. It must be the muscimol which stays very long in your system.
 
>one might find that heat is not nearly as destructive with these compounds as with those found in tryptamine-containing mushies.

the heat is manageable, it must be heat tolerant if it was pissed out and then used.
not sure about the bufo. thou.
 
it can withstand heat better than psilocybin, thats all i meant,

whats the temperature of reindeer piss, high than humans i wonder?
 
Muscimol doesn't like anything higher than 90°c or it'll degrade from what I gathered.
Human or animal body temp is fine.
I bet there are plenty of psilocin in your urine if you ingested some...
It's true for mescaline and others phens, I don't see why not with tryptamines...
Apparently, smoking or vaping muscimol is a valuable experience.
We just need to put our hands on some pure crystals and try.
It need a high vapor to get to the point.
SWIM is working on it and will hopefully manage by the winter to come back with first hand experience about smoked or vaped muscimol.
 
Vaping muscimol should be interesting, but it's a bit dangerous. Consider LD50, which is (according to wikipedia):

LD50 mice: 3.8 mg/kg s.c, 2.5 mg/kg i.p.

LD50 rats: 4.5 mg/kg i.v, 45 mg/kg orally.
 
Lewinii said:
it can withstand heat better than psilocybin, thats all i meant,

whats the temperature of reindeer piss, high than humans i wonder?
A body temperature of around 37C (100F) is the most effective for most organisms, which is why both humans and reindeers have a similar temperature. The temperature of the piss would be the same, perhaps a bit lower.

Both psilocin and muscimol can withstand way more than this. Psilocin will slowly degrade if boiled (100C/212F), muscimol will not to any noticeable degree. Muscimol can handle way more than boiling temperatures.

Pure muscimol and/or ibotenic acid is VERY expensive, because of how hard the procedures of extracting them are. It is not an extraction anyone can perform in their kitchen, to put it nicely. You are all better of with eating the fruits or a tea of them. :)
 
Evening Glory said:
Pure muscimol and/or ibotenic acid is VERY expensive, because of how hard the procedures of extracting them are. It is not an extraction anyone can perform in their kitchen, to put it nicely. You are all better of with eating the fruits or a tea of them. :)
Yea...unless you're Jonathan Ott :p Then you can extract it and sell it to pharma companies and help make a living for yourself. What a cool dude 8)
 
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