Ayahausca and city environments

[Stolen]

Need some avice, please. I finally have an experienced guide for ayahausca! Only thing he can only do it at his place in the city this sunday night. I dislike tripping in city limits, I have some social trouble and just knowing outside those walls twenty feet away are people in apartments has me undecided. I say this because what if a bad trip ensues and I start to think about that, I'm stuck in a very small space surrounded by city. Granted one isn't pinned on the floor on aya, what's the instance of going somewhere or screaming or something along those lines incoherently while on aya?

I've smoked fb at this same place numerous times and I alaways think, I could let go so so much easier if I was away from people in nature right now. I can possibly see this being a small issue on a long aya trip. What do you guys think? Am I over estimating the power of aya too much? Do these sorts of things happen on aya? I was able to pull myself back into a good trip even at a friend's house with other people on a moderate to strong dose of lsd. But this is ayahausca!!

This trip is my only chance to fix my life right now. Iv'e been tested in life recently with some unfortunate events. I am only willing to trip with an experienced guide, at that means appartments off a busy road. Looking for some opinions, have never done oral dmt. Well that's actually worked I haven't, so basically no experience in this particular type of thing.

Thanks for any replies, I appreciate it.

 

[Rolande]

While an experienced guide is very important, set and setting is of utmost importance.

NEVER trip if you already know you are going to have anxiety, and phobia-inflammation in an environment where you are trapped in discomfort.

 

[Stolen]

Kinda knew that but thanks for the advice. Was wondering what to expect from aya too. If I can convince my friend to somehow take me outside the city I may still be able to pull things off. I've gone out of body before on the classics before,
even in neighborhoods and been fine. Im just scared if I have to give total surrender it may not be the best. I don't know though, no aya experience.

 

[DeDao]

Need some avice, please. I finally have an experienced guide for ayahausca! Only thing he can only do it at his place in the city this sunday night. I dislike tripping in city limits, I have some social issues and just knowing outside those walls twenty feet away are people in apartments doesn't sound appealing to me. I say this because what if a bad trip ensues and I start to think about that, I'm stuck in a very small space surrounded by city. Granted one isn't pinned on the floor on aya, what's the instance of going somewhere or screaming or something along those lines incoherently while on aya?

I've smoked fb at this same place numerous times and I alaways think, I could let go so so much easier if I was away from people in nature right now. I can possibly see this being a small issue on a long aya trip. What do you guys think? Am I over estimating the power of aya too much? Do these sorts of things happen on aya? I was able to pull myself back into a good trip even at a friend's house with other people on a moderate to strong dose of lsd. But this is ayahausca!!

This trip is my only chance to fix my life right now. Iv'e been tested in life recently with some unfortunate events. I am only willing to trip with an experienced guide, at that means appartments off a busy road. Looking for some opinions, have never done oral dmt. Well that's actually worked I haven't, so basically no experience in this particular type of thing.

Thanks for any replies, I appreciate it.

You say this is the only time to change. If you think a psychedelic is going to change you in that manner then you are looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place.

If you already know you need to change and are putting it off by tripping. You may as well have a negative experience. Do what you want, but if you are expecting to this "trip" is your only chance to change your life then you will end up exactly where you were 12 hours later and slightly confused.

Just saying. Maybe you are looking for the wrong thing.

 

[Jellyfox]

you are definitely NOT overestimating the powers of aya. i have similar issues when it comes to tripping within the confines of a city/machine and prefer not to whenever possible. I think that if its as much of an issue for you as it is for me you should just wait my friend. No matter what you think right now, you will have more chances to experience aya and all her beauty in the future and you should wait until you have an opportunity to consume her in nature, because i can tell you from experience it is MUCH more meaningful to drink aya surrounded by peaceful trees and animals than under the surveillance of Televisions and Refrigerators. Also, although you may feel you need this experience to "fix" your life right now, you don't. I have been in similiar situations where it seems life is testing you and to try and solve it by drinking ayahuasca is not necessarily a good idea.

Tripping in the Concrete Jungle is never beneficial and adds too many unwanted variables into the experiment. The frequency bombardment coming from Tv's, microwaves, refrigerators, and all other kinds of Devices clutters and distorts the experience.

Whenever you do get the chance to drink the brew in nature, i recommend going to a place where there is no Cell phone service, these areas are frequency free and you will notice how much better that feels when you are there.

better to wait and be 100% sure than rush in and realize it wasn't the right time and place.

 

[DeDao]

Jellyfox just backed my opinion on not using Ayahuasca to "fix" a problem you know about.. The only thing a psychedelic can do in that respect is let you know about another one. They don't fix things. They let you know you had some in the first place.

You gotta do the fixin'.

 

[Stolen]

Dedao thanks for the advice but I know how psychedelics work, I've been tripping for eight years. I know when to go into the psychedelic experience and when not too.

I don't mean change as in there are pressing issues in my head and I'm trying to fix them with aya. What's going on is some personal loss in life out of my control. Happened a bit ago and I'm tripping to re-assess the situation.

 

[DeDao]

If it is with the death of a loved one I can back it up.

I recently had a best friend die (knew him for 10+ years) and I drank aya for his spirit and was shown something I wouldn't bother to go into detail now.

But since you aren't talking about getting off hard drugs or changing a bad habit then go for it if it is emotional issues. That's something these things are made for.

I wish you luck and healing with your emotional situation.

Let me know.

 

[Stolen]

She was close to me and I just need some closure. I've gotten over the grieving part but it still hurts inside from time to time.

 

[Jellyfox]

well i can say from experience that when someone close to you dies it will forever change the trips afterwards, and for me after i lost someone close, I felt it best to wait a while longer before i went on a psychedelic journey. I know you said you feel like this will be the only time you get to do it (in the near future) with a guide but for god sakes man i can tell from your first post that you should wait till you can do it in nature cuz like me, you are probly sensitive to the high frequencies in cities.

 

[DeDao]

When I was asking about the same things. With the grieving process of a close one, I was getting mixed answers too. It can either help things or make things worse.

Follow your heart. Either way, be safe.

 

[Hjortron]

I recently had a best friend die (knew him for 10+ years) and I drank aya for his spirit and was shown something I wouldn't bother to go into detail now.

If it isn't entirely inappropriate, I wouldn't mind reading what you have to write about this, if you don't mind writing it up.

And if it is, my apologies.

 

[DeDao]

Hjort, I actually made a report about this. I will private message you with a link. Enjoy.

 

[○]

I've done aya many times within the city, at my ladys, in her bedroom. I can tell you, if the aya is of decent quality and properly brewed, I think the last thing on your mind will be screaming imho, because you'll be bed ridden, and you won't be getting up for several hours. You might not even know what hit you, seriously.

Your right that being away from everyone, being by yourself, especially out in nature is wonderful for getting some work done in that state....no distractions, although it can get very intense that way. If you get hit good by the experience, your going to be going in whatever direction it chooses. It strips you down to the core, no stones left unturned.

First time I done it with my lady. We took our caapi first, waited 20 minutes then took the DMT admixture. Within about 10 minutes of taking the DMT admixture I look over at my lady and the look on her face was of complete horror and shock, it was coming on fast. All I remember was getting a can for her to puke in, laying her out on the bed and putting a blanket over her. Next thing I know (2 hours later almost) im laying on the bed completely immobilized, awash in the intense visions. I couldn't think "WTF what'd I do?!" or "whats going on!?"...for it had me... an intense grip. full immersion and no "me" to wonder. I layed there for another solid hour n'a half rolling around, tossing n' turning, not being able to speak. After about 4 hours or so, I looked over at my girl (she laying there twisting her body, grinning wide eyed) and said "Uhh........WHAT JUST HAPPENED!?!??".

You could get anything from a slight body load with some minor visual effects to full blown immersive visions/strapped to the bed and not moving for several hours, just depends on many factors: physiology, setting, set, quality materials, thorough prep, etc.

Just set up a nice area for the experience. Candles, incense, a long playlist of some realxing music, loose fit/long sleeve clothing, some fruit for munching after the experience and some blankets (in case your body temp drops, which it can, you can get very cold).

All in all, if it's a solid experience, you won't be worrying about anyone else...not even yourself.

Best of luck to you on your journey! Tat Tvam Asi

tat

 

[DeDao]

Well Stolen, I was going to give good recommendation points for your posts but now you have received a downward point.

If you are curious as to why this is, I believe you will remember the absurd and disrespectful behavior you pulled off earlier today. That type of behavior is not tolerated by the community and me personally. It is highly offensive at that..

 

[obliguhl]

I tend to agree with tat here, but the fact that you are feeling uncomfortable is problematic. I also want to echo the sentiment, that you probably shouldn't expect too much. You sound very desperate to be honest and eager to "do the right thing". Well, there isn't a "right thing" to do. There are only opportunities. Sometimes you fail, sometimes you don't, sometimes you'll learn that your failure wasn't a failure at all. the same is true for psychedelics and ayahuasca. Getting into the experience with a mindset of "SOMETHING GRANDIOSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN" isn't the best. It might shut you out of the experience at all.

Good luck