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Can harmalas cause insomnia?

A gram might not do it to me. I don’t know the exact doses where I experience insomnia.

If I mix harmala tea with amanita muscaria tea it seems to work effectively as a sleep aid and dream/vision inducer. I had forgotten about that combination but maybe will explore it more.
 
A gram might not do it to me. I don’t know the exact doses where I experience insomnia.

If I mix harmala tea with amanita muscaria tea it seems to work effectively as a sleep aid and dream/vision inducer. I had forgotten about that combination but maybe will explore it more.

Nice, I was combining Amanita and caapi leaf in tea, but have been taking a break, as the Amanitas and/or caapi leaf seemed to be working in a paradoxical way, in terms of keeping me up, instead of helping me sleep.
 
But I do wonder if other people have experienced harmalas-induced insomnia
I suppose it depends on the extracted form, route of administration, and dosage, but when I drink harmala brews and continue consuming them after the initial effects have worn off, it is not unheard of for me to remain awake for 36+ hours due to continued ingestion of the substance. I have also noticed that my sleep duration can be reduced from a normal 8 hours to around 4 hours, even after taking only a single dose during the day.
 
Hi all rue lovers, Im Ruebacca, a silent reader for quite a while and starting my rue journey recently changed my beeing completley.
i never felt so good in my life like in the last weeks.

I just decided to sign up because i have to share something that might help.

Im using rue as a kind of daily microdose ADD fix. For wellbeing and lack of energy. And support while kicking other bad habits like coffe.


I did the roastig of Rue according to this thread.
Dark Rue Brew

This might be something for you. With the "ruecoffe" i went from 1 up to 5 gramms.

super chill clear expirience without any edgy stimulation.

I did a view gramms of it for two weeks and it helped me to adapt to raw seeds later. when i take them raw now, it feels way more comfortable now.

The 5g ruecoffe lets me sleep like a baby even when i take it later. with raw seeds i was waking up all the time, this changed now but the roasted seeds just give me a really nice baby sleep.

maybe this is helpfull or interesting to you

greetings :)
 
Hi all rue lovers, Im Ruebacca, a silent reader for quite a while and starting my rue journey recently changed my beeing completley.
i never felt so good in my life like in the last weeks.

I just decided to sign up because i have to share something that might help.

Im using rue as a kind of daily microdose ADD fix. For wellbeing and lack of energy. And support while kicking other bad habits like coffe.


I did the roastig of Rue according to this thread.
Dark Rue Brew

This might be something for you. With the "ruecoffe" i went from 1 up to 5 gramms.

super chill clear expirience without any edgy stimulation.

I did a view gramms of it for two weeks and it helped me to adapt to raw seeds later. when i take them raw now, it feels way more comfortable now.

The 5g ruecoffe lets me sleep like a baby even when i take it later. with raw seeds i was waking up all the time, this changed now but the roasted seeds just give me a really nice baby sleep.

maybe this is helpfull or interesting to you

greetings :)
Welcome my fellow rue lover 🫶
 
with raw seeds i was waking up all the time, this changed now but the roasted seeds just give me a really nice baby sleep.
Ive heard before that roasting converts the harmaline to harmine, and harmaline is more stimulating than harmine, never tried it but might try it some time since you reminded me
 
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I did a view gramms of it for two weeks and it helped me to adapt to raw seeds later. when i take them raw now, it feels way more comfortable now.
How do you consume the raw seeds?

1. Swallow raw seeds whole.
2. Chew the raw seeds.
3. Powder the raw seeds and swallow the powdered form.
4. Put the powdered raw seeds in capsules and swallow the capsules.
 
How do you consume the raw seeds?

1. Swallow raw seeds whole.
2. Chew the raw seeds.
3. Powder the raw seeds and swallow the powdered form.
4. Put the powdered raw seeds in capsules and swallow the capsules.
hi guys, i can highly recommend the dark roast especially if you are getting started. but it think its also worth a good try highdose for you afficianado because i think it can be a really nice drink like a strange coffe.

with the fresh seeds i just chew them raw as long as possible and keep them 2-10min. in my mouth. thats probably the reason 2g give me trouble walking straight and very intens bodyload.

At first the taste was akward af but now i really like it. I have taste masochist tendencys so i like questionable chews.

but getting used to the taste and fully accepting it is part of my journey to get to know the spirit in different aspects. Now i really like it somehow and that also tells me something.
 
Taking rue immediately before bed time has resulted in me getting to sleep but then waking up once the effects kick in. However, strong rue effects are quite akin to dreaming so IME it's possible to relax into them and sustain most of the benefits of having slept properly.

That being said, I still wouldn't recommend sacrificing ones sleep quality in that manner too often, especially if you have regular commitments that entail getting up in the morning. Having had the opportunity to explore harmalas in this manner I'd still say that it has been very useful in terms of personal development to have done so.
I've tried this again lately and I find it rather entertaining how dreaming gets considerably more crazy than usual, before the rue wakes me up into a state of clean euphoria.

Caution would be advised for those who are more prone to nausea - vomiting while asleep has the potential to be deadly.
 
with the fresh seeds i just chew them raw as long as possible and keep them 2-10min. in my mouth
Chewing raw rue seems a whole lot more tolerable flavourwise than any kind of brew, whether decocted or infused. I almost enjoy it, especially when taken into comparison with the brews!
 
Chewing raw rue seems a whole lot more tolerable flavourwise than any kind of brew,
Second this. However, the last time I tried chewing them, which was about a week ago, I had an automatic vomiting response after holding the seeds in my mouth for 3-4 minutes. I experienced the same thing a few months ago when I tried swallowing powdered seeds. In the past, I’ve used this ROA without any issues.

Maybe the reason my body is reacting so violently now is because I’m activating the spiritual essence of the seeds before consuming them? 🤔
 
Second this. However, the last time I tried chewing them, which was about a week ago, I had an automatic vomiting response after holding the seeds in my mouth for 3-4 minutes. I experienced the same thing a few months ago when I tried swallowing powdered seeds. In the past, I’ve used this ROA without any issues.

Maybe the reason my body is reacting so violently now is because I’m activating the spiritual essence of the seeds before consuming them? 🤔
We might be veering too far of into the palatabilty/nausea question for this insomnia-focussed thread, but there's highly likely a psychological component to your response. It may also be necessary to consider that the degree of nauseating quality will vary between different batches of seeds.
 
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