Changa Healing

[PureMan]

Hi everyone. Right now in SWIMs life, he is trapped in his own mental prison (bad diet, drinking, smoking pot, and recently cigarettes (YUCK)). He has been extracting spice and has already made himself a batch of changa. He hasn't broken through yet because he is afraid that what he may see in Dimitri's mirror could possibly scare him, as all that we see in that realm is our own reflection. He has had a very rough experience on salvia that seriously scarred him. He has even gone out of his way to order a large quantity of ayahuasca components.

SWIM is going through a very hard transition in his life and was wondering if anyone thinks that changa would be appropriate medicine to start the healing process.

 

[ghostman]

Hi Cloud,

I have seen the spirit of changa heal the most fucked up people. A friend of mine's life was turned around from the brink of disaster. He stuck it out and let her extract what she had to, but believe me his life is transformed. I have never seen someone change so quickly and for the good.

The truth is within us all and once it is shown to you we cannot deny it. You choose to walk the path or suffer denying it.

It will most certainly help with healing. Hyperspace gives us what we need, Changa especially so. I can't tell you that it will all be easy, but if it's healing you are after then I believe it's healing you shall get.

What is most important is that you clarify your intent and see it as work. Also accept the work that she will have to do on you. Nobody knows how she will do it and if you find yourself in that place, let her in and accept her as best you can. She is medicine. If there is shit that needs to come out of you then it isn't always easy and it can be dark. As you said, it's from you brother, so look at it and deal with it.

What is also vital is that you learn and integrate the lessons. Don't rush it and trust yourself (and her). Take your time to listen, learn and implement. Do not rely on her to change you, it will be your responsibility to actually implement the change. She will show you what needs to change, she will deliver the lessons, but you have to do the work.

Trust that she will also give you love when you are weak and vulnerable. Sometimes though, love is tough. There may be difficulty, but there will be love.

The Nexus is here to support you and to listen to you. Only you can go there, but we will be here for you.

Much healing to you.

 

[PureMan]

Thank you for the reply! Your words give me hope.

I guess one of SWIMs biggest problems is integration. He has had many great mind bending moments on many other substances, such as high doses of LSD and mushrooms. These experiences were great, but SWIMs main problem is learning to integrate. As soon as sobriety comes along it gets very hard. I am hoping that in the end, changa/spice/ayahuasca will help SWIM more than these other substances have in the past.

 

[Folding Worm•]

What do you find so hard about sobriety?

Maybe instead of more drugs, you should try no drugs.

 

[ghostman]

What do you find so hard about sobriety?

Maybe instead of more drugs, you should try no drugs.

I am going to go with what Folding Worm said.

Cloud, friend...

Do not think you can use Spice or Aya or Changa as a form of escapism. You will lose the plot. Lay off whatever you are on and straighten up. I guess a good aya session can help you, but Spice and Changa can turn into a rabbit hole. Be careful, be very careful

If you use it to sort your life out, know when to stop and integrate. If you don't do this will stand to lose your way. It is always best to try and sort yourself out first.

Be stealthy, healthy, wise strong and grounded.

 

[camakazi]

Well you've found yourself on a healing path my friend. Changa, Spice, mushrooms.. Psychedelics/entheogens (i've not arrived at a solid conclusion on that one yet) in general have done wonders for me and helping me deal with the day to day shit that life throws at you.

Its up to yourself how you interperate and intigrate the lessons you will undoubtetly learn on your journey.

Happy trails fella

 

[PureMan]

What do you find so hard about sobriety?

Maybe instead of more drugs, you should try no drugs.

SWIM has gone a while without drugs in the past, but deep down inside of him he feels that nagging sensation to alter his state. This is a part of the sickness he has been experiencing. What SWIM needs to heal is that feeling of wanting to alter himself. Aya/changa I am hoping will help.

 

[ghostman]

What do you find so hard about sobriety?

Maybe instead of more drugs, you should try no drugs.

SWIM has gone a while without drugs in the past, but deep down inside of him he feels that nagging sensation to alter his state. This is a part of the sickness he has been experiencing. What SWIM needs to heal is that feeling of wanting to alter himself. Aya/changa I am hoping will help.

Aya and Changa are stronger than you. If you pick a fight with it, it will win. :d

If you go in seeking healing, she will deliver, and then some.

Good luck bro, and keep us updated.

 

[Folding Worm•]

Maybe, just maybe, an ayahuasca ceremony will reset your receptors and scare you to death, showing you the truth,
showing you you don't need anything but yourself. Your desires are an illusion.
You need to work on yourself, not work on getting yourself high.

DMT will baffle you... you better be prepared to start dealing with some of the most insanely cosmic shit a human being could never even imagine.

Know you are getting yourself into a deeply mysterious and possibly menacing situation. I'm telling you, brother, you do not need any of this.

Drinking caapi tea alone can curb your cravings for substances.

If you push the envelope, and go deep, you will find yourself in a greater, more profoundly bizarre situation.

Just giving you a heads up...

With love and messages from beyond the fold,
FW•

 

[camakazi]

how much experience with the molecule do you have man?

A good session tends to alter your state permenantly, theres no going back once that switch has been flipped... for most at least anyway.

If you have a solid addiction, maybe look into ibogaine.

I think you're here for a reason though. Its either going to help you or its not! Go for it... I'm sure you'll know either way.

 

[PureMan]

how much experience with the molecule do you have man?

A good session tends to alter your state permenantly, theres no going back once that switch has been flipped... for most at least anyway.

If you have a solid addiction, maybe look into ibogane.

I think you're here for a reason though. Its either going to help you or its not! Go for it... I'm sure you'll know either way.

SWIM hasn't broken through yet. He has felt the power though, and knows that it is greater than him. He is set back a bit because about a year ago he had a salvia experience that sucked him into the crust of the earth and turned him into an eternal row of tide bottles. It was DAMN uncomfortable and scared the living crap out of him.

If SWIM could get his hands on some ibogaine, that would definitely be something he would want to experience.. I have no idea how to go about finding that though.

I do believe everything happens for some reason though..

 

[camakazi]

I've only ever had one salvia experience so I'm no where near clued up enough to advise on that one, but what I can say is that they're two totally different beasts.
Salvia took me to a dark place and held me trapped inside my own teeth, frightened... DMT took me!

 

[PureMan]

DMT will baffle you... you better be prepared to start dealing with some of the most insanely cosmic shit a human being could never even imagine.

Know you are getting yourself into a deeply mysterious and possibly menacing situation. I'm telling you, brother, you do not need any of this.

If you push the envelope, and go deep, you will find yourself in a greater, more profoundly bizarre situation.

This is precisely what I am afraid of. SWIM DOES want healing.. He just doesn't want to be in a worse off situation than previous to taking anything. I have been completely raped by salvia before, so I know how bad it can get.

 

[PureMan]

I've only ever had one salvia experience so I'm no where near clued up enough to advise on that one, but what I can say is that they're two totally different beasts.
Salvia took me to a dark place and held me trapped inside my own teeth, frightened... DMT took me!

This is somewhat similar to what one of SWIMs friends said. He said that DMT was like the Jedi side of the force, and Salvia was like the dark side of the force. It truly set the standard for me for what hell must be like.

 

[camakazi]

haha... Yoda must be a God damn master elf... He's a bloody machine elf, isn't he? Solved!

 

[Folding Worm•]

DMT will baffle you... you better be prepared to start dealing with some of the most insanely cosmic shit a human being could never even imagine.

Know you are getting yourself into a deeply mysterious and possibly menacing situation. I'm telling you, brother, you do not need any of this.

If you push the envelope, and go deep, you will find yourself in a greater, more profoundly bizarre situation.

This is precisely what I am afraid of. SWIM DOES want healing.. He just doesn't want to be in a worse off situation than previous to taking anything. I have been completely raped by salvia before, so I know how bad it can get.

I personally wish I never used DMT, and will never do it again.
This is just my personal relationship with the neurotransmitter.

It helps some people, and doesn't others.

If you feel the call to know, then there's no turning back.
Your quest for further understanding will most certainly be quenched.




What kind of healing are you looking for?
Letting go of substance abuse?
Caapi alone will do the trick.
DMT will launch you down the rabbit hole...

You don't need either. Caapi just helps.

be strong, brother...

 

[PureMan]

DMT will baffle you... you better be prepared to start dealing with some of the most insanely cosmic shit a human being could never even imagine.

Know you are getting yourself into a deeply mysterious and possibly menacing situation. I'm telling you, brother, you do not need any of this.

If you push the envelope, and go deep, you will find yourself in a greater, more profoundly bizarre situation.

This is precisely what I am afraid of. SWIM DOES want healing.. He just doesn't want to be in a worse off situation than previous to taking anything. I have been completely raped by salvia before, so I know how bad it can get.

I personally wish I never used DMT, and will never do it again.
This is just my personal relationship with the neurotransmitter.

It helps some people, and doesn't others.

If you feel the call to know, then there's no turning back.
Your quest for further understanding will most certainly be quenched.

From the studies I have been personally conducting, I believe that when we are in these profound altered states such as DMT, it only shows us a reflection of ourselves.. Nothing outside of our self. In my personal opinion there is no spirit world except for the one that we project from within ourselves. There is only energy, and we are all this one energy. I do believe that used in the right context, and with the right timing, these molecules/plants have a lot to teach us in regards to how we are currently living.. That being said, I think that if SWIM were to smoke a breakthrough dose, he more than likely would see something ugly.. because the state he is in would be reflected.

 

[Folding Worm•]

Well, with your current belief systems, you are most certainly in for a surprise...


Good luck.

 

[gibran2]

I've only ever had one salvia experience so I'm no where near clued up enough to advise on that one, but what I can say is that they're two totally different beasts.
Salvia took me to a dark place and held me trapped inside my own teeth, frightened... DMT took me!

This is somewhat similar to what one of SWIMs friends said. He said that DMT was like the Jedi side of the force, and Salvia was like the dark side of the force. It truly set the standard for me for what hell must be like.

I’ve had hundreds of salvia journeys, and almost as many DMT experiences.

In my deepest salvia journeys, my identity was mercifully stripped away. So although I found myself in a bizarre new life and knew I would never return to my old life, I had no memories of my old life to compare. And the deeper you go, the less you remember when returning.

In my deepest DMT journeys (with MAOIs), my ego was left perfectly intact. Perfect mental clarity and perfect memory of the experience on return.

In this sense, salvia is merciful, whereas DMT is not.

I have experienced the awful beauty of DMT, and although it has sometimes been very difficult, I believe I am better for having experienced it.

 

[PureMan]

Well, with your current belief systems, you are most certainly in for a surprise...


Good luck.

Trust me, I'm no athiest. The "spirit world" exists to an extent, but it is only an extension of our perception. To say that there are "spirits" or "souls" is to live in a world of duality. The shamans believe in "spirits", but shamans are far from enlightened. They are very competitive and even attack each other. There is a sense of elitism. No one is seperate from one another, there is only one energy, and one God, and we are it. There is only one energy.