Cold-brewed MHRB and Rue

[Thesmorphia]

Hi there,

I've been working with heat-and-acid extracted MHRB for some time, but I've recently begun cold-brewing it. Not to attempt an MAOI-free experience; simply to use it with Rue.

I've found the cold-brewed experience to be...I suppose 'warmer' would be a good description. It feel more organic, less harsh and jarring, and the come-up is *infinitely* smoother. Without using words like 'meant to', I can't help feeling that the cold-brewed method gives a more complete and user-friendly experience.

Has anyone else worked with this combination? If so, what was your experience?

 

[maxzar100]

Thesmorphia, could you please give a little more details of how you made the brew?

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Just for the improved flavor and GI tolerability, I really like CWE's. I think more usefulness is pulled with the heat and acidic washes, but it's so easy to drink a cold water extract...

If I am doing an aya journey, I parachute the freebase rue and wait about 15 min. Then I chute some more rue with the CWE. Then I use some nasal pharma. Then I vaporize whenever I can use my hands without them turning into crab claws.

 

[Thesmorphia]

maxzar,

Basically, I'm adding powdered Mimosa and water in a container- a twenty ounce bottle, in this case- shaking vigorously, then leaving it in the refrigerator for several days, shaking occasionally. Then I pour off the translucent, garnet-colored liquid and discard the sludge at the bottom. From there, I'll use the egg white tek to remove the tannins, then reduce the liquid to a drinkable amount. Take the powdered Rue fifteen minutes before, then drink the Mimosa. I usually use between 6 and 8 grams of Mimosa per dose, depending on how strong I'd like it to be.

 

[evil804]

ive done CWE on MHRB in the past, but found it to be weak compared to heat prepared brews, about 50% potency. nothing wrong with that if you save the solids for a later brew. Much better taste, less nausea, but i cant say the experience was noticeably different. These days i do a CWE with a bit of red wine vinegar for a week, then decant. I then do a typical heat extraction on the solids left behind, and reduce the heat prepared brew down. Once its to a small amount of a liquid, i evaporate the brew to a powder on a glass dish, and add the powder to the CWE liquid. Stick it all in the fridge overnight, filter, and you have a 100% potency brew with all the CWE goodies, very little nausea, no horrid taste, etc...

 

[Thesmorphia]

Hmm. Now *that's* an idea I never considered. Thanks, evil804, I'm going to have to try that.

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

I'm thinking of making a CWE of some Mimosa to mix with Ayahuasca vine brew. I'm planning on next week, if I make a CWE now that should be enough time say? Not really sure what to expect but the time is upon me.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

ive done CWE on MHRB in the past, but found it to be weak compared to heat prepared brews, about 50% potency. nothing wrong with that if you save the solids for a later brew. Much better taste, less nausea, but i cant say the experience was noticeably different. These days i do a CWE with a bit of red wine vinegar for a week, then decant. I then do a typical heat extraction on the solids left behind, and reduce the heat prepared brew down. Once its to a small amount of a liquid, i evaporate the brew to a powder on a glass dish, and add the powder to the CWE liquid. Stick it all in the fridge overnight, filter, and you have a 100% potency brew with all the CWE goodies, very little nausea, no horrid taste, etc...

Wow, what a great idea. I have been toying with the same idea, but this has motivated me to finally try it. Also, I have been thinking of sublimating some CWE in the freezer to get near the same thing done, but hopefully keep the heat unstable elements intact.

Kind of like a poor man's freeze drying, really. Especially since the gear for that is prohibitively expensive. This article gave me the initial idea many moons ago http://www.maps.org/ayahuasca/ayaspain00.html