Cyb`s "salt tek" extraction results

[DeeMenTalist]

Greetings everyone!
First of all hope that mods won`t mind if i`ll share my results here, since i`m still in newbish state of being and can post only in welcome area...
Anyway back on topic. Last weekend i`ve made extraction using Cyb`s salt tek with minor changes. It was my 4th or 5th extraction with this tek. Little changes that i made this time:
1. After adding lye and soaking few hours in a hot water bath i let it cool down to a room temperature(maybe +20C).
2. Made 4 pulls (40ml of hexane) around 25 minutes each and 45 last one.
My goal with this changes was to get cleaner stuff as i don`t really like full spectrum orange spice(it kinda heavy for my taste).
After freeze precipitation i decided to make one more pull(about 8 hours long with room temp). So after five pulls i have 1 gram of this beautiful spice from 50g of mimosa hostilis. :d
Best vibes,
BlazingSatva.

 

[slugware]

Nice results, fella

I am too newbie in extractions and have been applying this great tek so far.

Looking at your resulsts i think i want to switch my nps from zippo lighter fluid to something that will yield cleaner spice (Hepthane or Hexane). Also next time will try letting the basified mix to cool down to room temp to see what's the difference. In my extraction experince, i have always pulled while the reaction vessel is still warm and sitting in the warm water bath.

As far as i know heavier solvents such as hexane and hepthane can't be evaporated, right? So how does one go, if they wish to saturate their pulled solvent for easier precipation? I do evap my 4x50 ml pulls down to about 100 ml when freeze precipating. Few times i didn't saturated it enough, and spice didn't crystalize after 18 hours in the freezer.

You say you tweak the tek with minor changes. I think this is a great way to really understand and gain experience. Little variables can teach us a lot. I've been reading the nexus quite extensivelly (and obsessively, might i add), but the real deal is the extraction. And for some unknown reason, i always feel some quite alchemical excitement during the extraction process. It's pretty much like alchemy. I see why people here say that the intent you put in the extraction itself influences the journeys to the other worlds. Somehow, they're strangely connected.


Anyway, got little carried away.

Safe journeys!

 

[pitubo]

As far as i know heavier solvents such as hexane and hepthane can't be evaporated, right?

Hexane and heptane evaporate just fine. From my experience, most hydrocarbons sold in shops are actually heavier (octane, nonane etc.) than that. And these evaporate quite well too. Even lamp oil will evaporate, albeit a bit more slowly

 

[DeeMenTalist]

Thanks for reply guys. And pitubo is correct about hexane. It evaporates fine and quickly.

 

[DansMaTete]

As far as i know heavier solvents such as hexane and hepthane can't be evaporated, right?

In fact those are quite light (C6 and C7)so they evaporate easily. Pentane (C5) is lighter, so it evaporates even more easily.

The lightest are methane, ethane, propane and butane (C1, C2, C3, C4) but they are gazes at atmospheric pressure and room temperature. Difficult to use.

Above (C8, C9, Etc) they don't evaporate easily but they do. Difficult to use.

And naphta is a mix of those. The lighter naphta is made with lighter alcanes and obviously heavier naphta has heavier alcanes.

That's what i think i know, correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[luminance]

That's a wonderful sight! Congratulations!

 

[cyb]

Looks like Cosmic Sherbert

 

[DoingKermit]

Looks like Cosmic Sherbert

I saw Christian Slaters face from Austin Powers when I read that :d

 

[null24]

That's fantastic!

Mimosa, I'm assuming? Since ACRB is what's primarily used by folks here in the states,i like to know if it's Mimosa or Acacia.

Absolutely gorgeous, if I haven't said so already:thumb_up: !

 

[DeeMenTalist]

null24, yes, i`m using brazilian mimosa hostilis.

 

[slugware]

Hexane and heptane evaporate just fine. From my experience, most hydrocarbons sold in shops are actually heavier (octane, nonane etc.) than that. And these evaporate quite well too. Even lamp oil will evaporate, albeit a bit more slowly

In fact those are quite light (C6 and C7)so they evaporate easily. Pentane (C5) is lighter, so it evaporates even more easily.

The lightest are methane, ethane, propane and butane (C1, C2, C3, C4) but they are gazes at atmospheric pressure and room temperature. Difficult to use.

Above (C8, C9, Etc) they don't evaporate easily but they do. Difficult to use.

And naphta is a mix of those. The lighter naphtha is made with lighter alcanes and obviously heavier naphta has heavier alcanes.

That's what i think i know, correct me if i'm wrong.

I've misguided myself to let believing that.

Will be trying with some better solvent next time. The only time i got pure white fluffy spice was my first extraction (funny, right) and every consequent extraction the zippo lighter fluid tends getting yellowish just after the first separation from basified mix, basically yielding yellowish product. I've been experimenting with tweaking temperatures, but it also gets like that.

Not that i mind the color, i just want to make sure i've done all the best to have as pure product as possible (for my extraction methods and condition/setting/gear). So i guess better
solvent is needed for that purpose.

 

[pitubo]

In my experience, when the basic soup is too warm, the extract tends to be yellower.

Did you add solid lye prills to the aqueous plant material? When lye dissolves in water, it heats up considerably. This causes the immediate surroundings of each lye prill to be a very hot and strongly basic solution, which is extremely corrosive. It may have an adverse effect on the soup.

I get better results first making a concentrated salt solution, then adding lye to that and waiting until it has cooled down a bit. To that I add plant material, mix thoroughly and cover with naphta.

 

[Earthwalker]

50g ACRB Cybs hybrid salt TEK done 5pulls so far first 3 yielded 420mg fluffy yellow & last 2 180mg gooey yellow !

But I must ask someone if I may why do we need to let the pulls seperate 4 times

can't we or would it hurt the yeild if we just did one 2min constant mix then settle and pull ???

 

[cyb]

But I must ask someone if I may why do we need to let the pulls seperate 4 times. Can't we or would it hurt the yeild if we just did one 2min constant mix then settle and pull ???

You mix it at least 4 times so that you have the best chance of saturating your naphtha.
You can mix as long as you wish.

Molecular transfer takes place on contact, so you must 'touch' every part of the Basic mix many times.

 

[Earthwalker]

But I must ask someone if I may why do we need to let the pulls seperate 4 times. Can't we or would it hurt the yeild if we just did one 2min constant mix then settle and pull ???

You mix it at least 4 times so that you have the best chance of saturating your naphtha.
You can mix as long as you wish.

Molecular transfer takes place on contact, so you must 'touch' every part of the Basic mix many times.

Ok that makes perfect sence thank you Cyb !:thumb_up:

Also I'm finding that my bark has been powdered to a point in getting pulls that have a purple color to them and until my pulls

Completely settle in my "pre" precipe bowl and then I have to filter atleast twice through cotton wool ! Is there an easier sure fire

way of getting unconteminated naphtha ?? Or does everyone have the same problem ?

 

[DreaMTripper]

Instead of filtering have you tried a salty sodium carbonate wash to back extract the bits of bark?

 

[pitubo]

To get rid of plant dust in the naphta you can either:
- keep the separated naphta with a small layer of basified water standing in a warm water bath long enough for the particles to fall down and be caught up in the water layer. Then reseparate the naphta and proceed as usual;
or
- leave the plant dust in and proceed as usual to crystals, then redissolve dirty crystals in hot naphta, let dust settle while still hot, decant and cool, freeze etc.

 

[Earthwalker]

To get rid of plant dust in the naphta you can either:
- keep the separated naphta with a small layer of basified water standing in a warm water bath long enough for the particles to fall down and be caught up in the water layer. Then reseparate the naphta and proceed as usual;
or
- leave the plant dust in and proceed as usual to crystals, then redissolve dirty crystals in hot naphta, let dust settle while still hot, decant and cool, freeze etc.

Yeah I've been doing the 2nd option , after I filter as much as possible the freeze precipe , then redisolve frozen crystals in same

Solvent after warming , leaving oils , plant dust and other contaminates behind then freeze precipe again leaving nice big yummy

goodness !! :twisted:

Thank you aswell as I'll look into the sodium carbonate wash !!

 

[DeeMenTalist]

You mix it at least 4 times so that you have the best chance of saturating your naphtha.
You can mix as long as you wish.

In this extraction i mixed pulls 2-3 times... and you can see above that goodness.:d
I`ve used hot hexane(heated on water bath) and as i said in first post room temp mimosa. So it worked pretty well for me.
ps need to try that max ion tek.

 

[DeeMenTalist]

Also want to add that i used almost 1 liter of water. I think i read somewhere that for better and quicker solvent separation it is desirable to use more water, to make it more 'liquid'(especially for the 'cold' pulling).
ps. Loaded my 'space shuttle' and preparing myself for a ride in a next couple days.