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Did you guys know you can vape piracetam?

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embracethevoid

embracethevoid

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Flash point is at around 125C.

Please consult MSDS;

For more info see here.



Can someone comment on possible decomposition? The MSDS states thermal decomposition occurs at 240C whereas boiling occurs at 250C. Is there any risk of toxic vapour products at 150C? What about products created upon contact with flame?

I've been vaping it the last few days. It acts a bit more like a drug than a nootropic when mixed with harmalas. It's like the idea of which is the potentiator of which somewhat dissolves. Very musical combination.
 
Does the vapor taste anything like ingesting the powder? Because I can see that being a nonstarter, for me at least.

I have experienced piracetam causing notable psychoactive effects - 'electric' feeling in the head and brain, stimulation, bruxism, minor insomnia, and sociability. Mostly when taking it without a tolerance (always in combination with choline bitartrate).

Do you regularly take it orally? At what dosages?
 
Some very iffy posts/reports showing over at Longecity (your link)...
best read all of them before you do this...

Not for me I think...

Horrible idea, both of those ketones are excellent at forming radicals, if ring breakage occurs there are many active places that will lead to nitrogen dioxide formation.. deadly brown gas-not sure of concentration tho.

This combo can also lead to seizures and headaches, be very careful
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Then things got pretty shitty. I started to get a very distinct and powerful nausea, my heartbeat was very fast still, i was breathing very deep and was light headed. I tried to control my heart rate and diminish the light headedness through my breathing, not to much success. I'm almost sure I'm going to throw up, and I feel as if there is a chance I wont make it home and collapse, despite it only being about three minutes away
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Also for those wondering about Noopept:

Flame test on Noopept shows it melts and upon cooling down, forms into a gel-like substance. Direct contact with flame did not seem to vaporise it. I am not willing to smoke this stuff. Taste appears to be altered from original. Not sure what is going on here
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It smokes just fine. The guy talking about ketone formation didn't specify whether this happens below thermal decomposition point or not; it doesn't really make sense for it to occur below that given that ketone formation is thermal decomposition after all.

The flash point is a good 100 celsius below the decomposition temperature and the boiling point itself. Assuming Piracetam does not break down in any other fashion this makes it one of the safest things to vaporise in fact.



The vapour tastes very mild by the way. Yes it does taste like the powder but if you eat a piece of tobacco it's very different to smoking it; smoked substances taste a lot less stronger.
 
universecannon said:
why smoke it though?
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That's what I was thinking. To get the optimal effects from nootropics, they need to build in your system after weeks of use. Therefore, the best ROA seems oral. Otherwise, that's a lot of vaping!
 
Piracetam hits me instantly, whether orally or vaped. When vaped it feels more like a recreational drug than a nootropic.

Perhaps some people need them to build up but I do not observe that. The benefits are instantaneous. Having said that, I take Noopept every day so that may have something to do with it.

A small hit of Piracetam puts me onto another plane for a little while.
 
embracethevoid said:
Piracetam hits me instantly, whether orally or vaped. When vaped it feels more like a recreational drug than a nootropic.

Perhaps some people need them to build up but I do not observe that. The benefits are instantaneous. Having said that, I take Noopept every day so that may have something to do with it.

A small hit of Piracetam puts me onto another plane for a little while.
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can you describe the effect ?
 
Interesting.

Never considered other ROAs with Piracetam.

A bit wary of smoking this stuff, but embracethevoid has me curious.

Generally I feel almost nothing from Piracetam. Even in large doses and sustained over time. Even stacking it with other nootropics and supplements like Citicholine or whatever, it seems rather mild. Other racetams, on the other hand work quite obviously for me.

I still use Piracetam from time to time, and I find that does diminish hangovers from various drugs. I suppose, for me, it is one of those things that is more noticeable in its absence than directly for whatever reason.

(HF glances over at his prodigious stash of Piracetam and then towards a suitable vaping pipe... hmmmmm.)

Anyone else have some anecdotal reports to share?
 
Went ahead and tried this...

Works like gangbusters AFAICT. Far more noticeable than from eating it, and on such small amounts no less.

I will refrain from sitting around vaping piracetam on a regular basis, though, until more evidence and discussion can be had. I feel pretty sure that vaping it seems safe enough, and is certainly pleasant... but I still rather be safe than sorry.

The thing is that the powder turns to solid rocks after it cools, and it is all too easy to move from vaping to straight up smoking which gets me suspicious about the ketones issue. Even when I did seem to cross over into mild smoking rather than vaping, it still felt rather mild on the lungs... and the short rush only increased a bit.

Do you guys think that a light touch with a flame will bring temps over 240?

Curiouser & curiouser...
 
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