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disconnected with the world after psychedelics.

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syberdelic said:
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Ugh:? ! Please, somebody, anybody, everybody stop!:!:
If you know anybody using it, for goodness' sake, help them stop saying "woke"!
Why is it even a term? How did it pass the term-coining phase?
Isn't it supposed to mean oh-so-aware, yet doesn't even use proper syntax? Oh my god it bugs me enough to rant.:p
The only time i hear it used is by folks who have self-determined themselves to be highly enlightened, usually only because they've read TMk and taken lots of drugs.

I'm (not really) sorry.
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Only those that aren't WOKE complain about it's terminology 😁 Seriously though, we need meme words like this to show the serious problems that invade our spiritual/newage/hippie bullshit culture. We need to see they exist and words like WOKE help us with that so that maybe we can just move to a better psychology. I would be willing to put my money on the line that you yourself have at one time 'involuntarily' felt similar thoughts/feelings as the OP describes even if you weren't aware that you were doing it, it is part of dealing with our egos.
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Oh man oh man, most definitely! It

I was planning to come back and edit my post so that it would also relate to the OP, but got sidetracked both by the meme and a real life thing that was going on.

But yeah, it's hard as hell to relate to people, i mean the citizens of the country i live in just elected a freaking dictator so... Yeah, psyber, funny works real good:thumb_up: !

As for the meme, i get it, some people i actually totally respect in real life use it. I just.. Don't.. Like..it.
 
“Admit it. You aren’t like them. You’re not even close. You may occasionally dress yourself up as one of them, watch the same mindless television shows as they do, maybe even eat the same fast food sometimes. But it seems that the more you try to fit in, the more you feel like an outsider, watching the “normal people” as they go about their automatic existences. For every time you say club passwords like “Have a nice day” and “Weather’s awful today, eh?”, you yearn inside to say forbidden things like “Tell me something that makes you cry” or “What do you think deja vu is for?”. Face it, you even want to talk to that girl in the elevator. But what if that girl in the elevator (and the balding man who walks past your cubicle at work) are thinking the same thing? Who knows what you might learn from taking a chance on conversation with a stranger? Everyone carries a piece of the puzzle. Nobody comes into your life by mere coincidence. Trust your instincts. Do the unexpected. Find the others…” -Tim Leary
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-eg
 
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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Well RB, I to have felt this way, And I found myself overthinking very much after some of the intense experiences I went through.I find it extremely ironic that I didn't stop to actually think about my experiences only months after I had them, Maybe I was too awe struck at the time to put any thought into it, now my whole spectrum of thinking has been dumped upside down and completely changed, I sometimes I think I Went to far myself, and I begin to overthink at times. But you have to figure out were to draw the line in the sand, As to were you realize you must keep yourself in reality check. Because at the end of the day, We all reintegrate back into reality, It may be difficult considering the mind bending experience you have gone through. But we gots ta remember, We all come back to reality even after those mind bending lessons.
 
Mahatma Ghandi said ‘What you do has very little importance and it’s very important that you do it’ and I think that’s how we have to act. We have to each choose a small area and then act in that limited area with all the existential commitment we can muster. But not with anxiety. Wei Po Yang, the Chinese Taoist alchemist said ‘Worry is perposterous. You don’t know enough to worry’…it’s just a complete waste of metabolic energy. The better thing is to function well in place and then to wonder. Wonder is sort of worry without animal anxiety, but it’s living in the light of non-closure. We’re not going to get this thing wrestled into a box.” -terence McKenna
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-eg
 
Yumi said:
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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Well RB, I to have felt this way, And I found myself overthinking very much after some of the intense experiences I went through.I find it extremely ironic that I didn't stop to actually think about my experiences only months after I had them, Maybe I was too awe struck at the time to put any thought into it, now my whole spectrum of thinking has been dumped upside down and completely changed, I sometimes I think I Went to far myself, and I begin to overthink at times. But you have to figure out were to draw the line in the sand, As to were you realize you must keep yourself in reality check. Because at the end of the day, We all reintegrate back into reality, It may be difficult considering the mind bending experience you have gone through. But we gots ta remember, We all come back to reality even after those mind bending lessons.
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Well, most do... and some also come back to reality with a little bit of psychosis to go along with it. These are psychedelics we are playing with here and there is a risk of psychosis to some extent just like there is a risk to playing sports. Lets hope we are both lucky hey? *posting from a mental institution atm* :lol: jk
 
Your right and I did think about how some experiences can have some lingering issues, One or two of my tea trips I thought I would never recover, But eventually I floated back. My second time drinking DMT Tea I thought I was going to have to go to a mental ward or something along those lines, But I rode it out and was fine in the end, It was not an easy thing to make it through, And I see why its good to have a trip sitter on ayahuasca sessions.
 
Yumi said:
Your right and I did think about how some experiences can have some lingering issues, One or two of my tea trips I thought I would never recover, But eventually I floated back. My second time drinking DMT Tea I thought I was going to have to go to a mental ward or something along those lines, But I rode it out and was fine in the end, It was not an easy thing to make it through, And I see why its good to have a trip sitter on ayahuasca sessions.
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My first ayahuasca experience was like this. I was feeling sick as fuck while tripping balls in the jungle. I figured that I had finally done it this time and would spend the rest of my life mentally handicapped in Peru.

I would say that it's not only important to have a trip sitter, but also to pay close attention to set and setting with respect to YOUR OWN cultural contexts. I could have experimented with ayahuasca on my own with a local trip sitter but wanted to experience the traditional practice. This was a big mistake. The only thing that saved me from a full on wig-out was extensive experience with high dose psychedelics.
 
I know this feeling, I was trying to escape this disconnected feeling by doing even more psychedelics more often. Didn't solve anything...

I'm going to say that yes, you probably have gone too far but it's not something to worry about. It might be because at the end of the trip serotonin levels are actually at their lowest because psychedelics are serotonin agonists. People assume they will just keep feeling better and better the more psychedelics they do, because the afterglows of the first few trips are long lasting, positive and most transformative because that's when the whole perception shift happens.

A lot of psychedelic veterans advocate to space trips out not only to preserve tolerance but also not to loose the magic. Like you I myself didn't listen, expecting it was a tolerance issue and I'll keep getting better and better. It eventually makes you a wreck because you have no time to integrate your experiences, your serotonin levels are lower than usually (although not drastically as with MDMA), and since you are playing with madness your thinking can also be a bit disorganized.

As time passes by and you make sure you actually have a healthy attitude towards life you'll probably find yourself that if you abstain for a while from all drugs that you slowly are becoming happier again. You might also notice that you are more calm than ever to the point that people around you also notice it. There's a chance that in the integration process you seem to make wiser choices and do mistakes less often.

I say take this as a blessing, not a curse. Psychedelics are a double edged sword, because your attitude is too. Think about why you started (assuming it's self improvement and awareness) and try to put that into practice.

Maybe take a break for a while or space them out a bit more?
 
^^^that is good advice. Taking time to integrate the "lessons" from a powerful experience is extremely important if one is engaging in intentional use as opposed to recreational.

For me personally, a period of at least a month in between is necessary (sometimes with DMT, I'll have a 'session' comprised of multiple trips over a short period of time) to take full advantage; to be able to have the best and clearest recall and time to sort of parse some data.

Before i found this community online and helped to create and organize a local meetup group, i felt very disconnected. I'll make a suggestion to do the same, you may find it wonderfully helpful to "find the others" as they say. Just knowing that I DO have neighbors that can share my new understanding has gone a long way towards helping me stay sane (yeah, yeah, okay...ykwim lol)

Peace, and be good to you, friend.
 
HUGS to RUNNING BEAR! I feel ya. I remember the first time I saw TV on acid almost 30yrs ago. I never knew I had been brainwashed my whole life and that these silly situations were made to hold me from ad to ad. maybe not "woke" but a constant awakening. Sometimes it just isn't all pretty lights when the filters are inhibited but awakening creates wisdom.
 
One thing other than humor that I might suggest to anyone in this situation is to find a creative outlet. Just don't reduce creative to artistic. Painting, sculpting, music, and other traditional art forms are great for this but not for everyone. Ultimately it is the "create" aspect that provides the healing for mind and spirit. I have even found this outlet in remodeling a bathroom.

And also, don't make the mistake of being dead set on conveying your psychedelic experience in your creation. There are few people who can successfully do this. I personally find it to be a frustrating and fruitless endeavor. If you can pull it off, great but be flexible. There is much more to art than psychedelia.
 
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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lol its awesome isnt it,, looking at these apes walking about . Ascend past the notions n concept =s of humane and life, walk as a God, Lord Master w/e you wana call it amongst these zoo animals .
 
Final Incarnate said:
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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lol its awesome isnt it,, looking at these apes walking about . Ascend past the notions n concept =s of humane and life, walk as a God, Lord Master w/e you wana call it amongst these zoo animals .
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I'm sorry, but this truly seems like awful advice. This is the kind of thinking that leads to things like radical extremism. We are all conscious human beings that came into this world naked and afraid. We are all in this together and despite some being at an obviously lower level of consciousness, we are better off being inclusive rather than exclusive. Being inclusive is advantageous to everyone involved. Being in an exclusive position might seem advantageous, but ultimately that is delusional and short sighted.
 
syberdelic said:
Final Incarnate said:
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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lol its awesome isnt it,, looking at these apes walking about . Ascend past the notions n concept =s of humane and life, walk as a God, Lord Master w/e you wana call it amongst these zoo animals .
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I'm sorry, but this truly seems like awful advice. This is the kind of thinking that leads to things like radical extremism. We are all conscious human beings that came into this world naked and afraid. We are all in this together and despite some being at an obviously lower level of consciousness, we are better off being inclusive rather than exclusive. Being inclusive is advantageous to everyone involved. Being in an exclusive position might seem advantageous, but ultimately that is delusional and short sighted.
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It's also delusional because entertaining thoughts of superiority is surely just another way of making yourself appear superior to your competitors in the monkey troupe (if inly to yourself).

There actually is no way to de-primatize yourself. We're all very much cookie-cutter automatons programmed to compete and reproduce.

The best we can do is to enjoy the ensuing comedy, and to do our best to help others to enjoy it, too.
 
Running Bear said:
Have you ever felt emotional numbness? I feel so disconnected with the world around me. I feel like I have gone to far. I look at everyone around me and people seem lost. How do you keep going after you wake up? Am I the only one going through this?
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Become a Bodhisattva in a sense, use your understanding and awakening to bring understanding and awakening to others...

Bodhisattva*
In Mahayana Buddhism, a person who has achieved enlightenment, but has who has chosen to remain in this world to help those who are suffering, instead of going on to nirvana. This is the highest ideal.
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-eg
 


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