DMT and Death

[complacentnation]

I was wondering when people breakthrough, have you felt like you died? Did you feel as though you had really done it this time that it is impossible to ever come back mentally healthy, mind not completely shattered?

I had my first experience being completely warped and waking up in a new reality, inhabited by real aliens. I just wonder if this is normal? I guess I am used to sub level experiences I just had no idea that this would be possible. It was three days ago and I am still remembering details from this trip. It was so incredible. Yet so frightening.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

yea, this is a pretty common experience.

 

[universecannon]

yup, very common. its a strange thing

 

[complacentnation]

OK then let me ask, do you guys feel comfortable with it?

 

[complacentnation]

I still feel like I am going to throw up. It was so immense. Aliens, they are real. I still shake in my boots even though it was the most amazing electronic experience that I never imagined possible. I feel like a deep ass person... this went too deep. It was so real. I have supported this thing, I have done it so many times... yet now I feel like my mouth is shut. I do not recommend this. It is so insane, so real, so beautiful, so real. I can no longer give it out. I can not deal with the repercussions if someone close to me has an experience they are not ready for. I was ready. I wanted to know what it was. It is way more than I could have ever thought.

I really wish you good voyages and I hope everyone is careful and ready.

 

[Psychonaut In Orbit]

It is common... there have been times where I thought I was never going to do DMT again because I felt I went too deep... saw places I feel or I thought I was not ready to see yet. After letting go and after accepting the randomness of DMT... these feelings have truly subsided. It's an understanding I have now for whenever I partake and it helps me... even though I know that things can get very CRAZY and UNPREDICTABLE.

It all comes with the territory. :thumb_up:

 

[entheogenadvocate]

I can no longer give it out. I can not deal with the repercussions if someone close to me has an experience they are not ready for. I was ready. I wanted to know what it was. It is way more than I could have ever thought.

^^^That is a valuable lesson to learn. This is some of, if not the most powerful medicine on the planet, and it is definitely not for everyone.

After my first breakthrough, I thought for a while that if everyone could just try this, the world would be transformed into a better place filled with empathy, wisdom, and love. I now realize I couldn't have been more wrong. It may sound cliche, but it is true: DMT finds you, you don't find it.

The reality is that not only are most people not ready for the types of experiences DMT can allow, most people don't want them. It blew my mind in the beginning when I would talk to friends and say: "You can see and talk to aliens, experience death, communicate telepathically to divine beings, and experience what it is to exist without the shell of a physical body!!".... only to have them stare at me for a few awkward moments, and ask if I wanted to turn on the tv, drink a beer, and watch a football game or something.

I'm glad you made it back safe Now the key is taking the time to integrate your experience, and using it to transform who you are on a daily basis. You'll probably never find definitive answers, but the search for them will cause you to grow more than you could ever imagine.

Much love and happy journeys

 

[complacentnation]

I appreciate your words. I really hope to integrate this experience. It seems very difficult to do so. It just was so immense. So real. There was no real story, or lesson except to be laid bare upon the bardo. To see a new reality and know that that is possible. This is nothing to mess with.

I used to think about suicide. We can get away from here so easily. Before I started taking spice I wanted to know why mystical experience is possible. Do we die, melt into our organics... no soul? Or do we have a soul, is there heaven and hell? All of those concepts are so simple to me now. They have nothing and everything to do with this. We need to live our lives as fully as graciously as we can. Suicide is not an option. There is so much more... like I saw in my trip... its all a test. If you can not live through this test... who knows.

 

[ymer]

Life is very weird, I think about 6 months ago I found on a bodybuilding forum that I used to frequent a link to a very shoty alan watts speech... I got hooked up on his ideas and wisdom and I just got completely transformed, one thing led to another and right now my first succesful extraction is in the freezer waiting to precipitate.

I think you have to be ready for it, and I think I am... it can't be coincidence that a simple video on an unrelated topic made me end up extracting DMT

 

[Alex101]

Life is very weird, I think about 6 months ago I found on a bodybuilding forum that I used to frequent a link to a very shoty alan watts speech... I got hooked up on his ideas and wisdom and I just got completely transformed, one thing led to another and right now my first succesful extraction is in the freezer waiting to precipitate.

I think you have to be ready for it, and I think I am... it can't be coincidence that a simple video on an unrelated topic made me end up extracting DMT

lol thats pretty funny. I can definitely relate with a youtube movie totally transformating my life, although it was 2 years ago, you can see how a ripple has literally torn your present and future in motion. I've sort of got this plan on how ready,happy and uber confident i am gonna be when the day comes..but my plans NEVER go as planned so no need to worry what happens anymore.

 

[olympus mon]

Contact with entities and full on breakthroughs are certainly not for everyone. This doesn't make any person better or less than we are all just different minds. Dmt can be so intense and bizarre t can take your breath away to say the least.

For me my first contact with the others changed my life in an instant. Nothing that would be apparent from the outside looking in but what occurred within my being, I would never be the same, nor would it be possible to be the same.
Since that night I have never looked back I only wished to move forward and try to understand what my personal truths are.

 

[cire113]

I just breakthrough 7 days ago; and it felt like i completely died;

actually when i returned to my physical body it took me a good 5 minutes to realize where i was and who these people next to me where and what was going on;

It really is the ultimate experience in this reality; Period.

 

[ॐ]

I haven't experienced DMT yet, but a friend of mine has and he told me that the start of the trip felt 100% like he was physically dying. I am very intrigued by the actual physical sensations you would feel when lifting off, could anyone elaborate on that? I have heard the common reports of a buzzing sound getting louder and louder, a tremendous surge of energy and eventually breaking through a membrane of visuals to end up on the other side. I'm wondering if anyone has a more personal description of the lift-off stage of the trip, leading up to the moment of breaking through. Does it really feel like what you would imagine dying to be like?

 

[○]

I haven't experienced DMT yet, but a friend of mine has and he told me that the start of the trip felt 100% like he was physically dying. I am very intrigued by the actual physical sensations you would feel when lifting off, could anyone elaborate on that? I have heard the common reports of a buzzing sound getting louder and louder, a tremendous surge of energy and eventually breaking through a membrane of visuals to end up on the other side. I'm wondering if anyone has a more personal description of the lift-off stage of the trip, leading up to the moment of breaking through. Does it really feel like what you would imagine dying to be like?

For me after I take a couple good sized tokes (Usually sitting in a chair), a feeling starts from my feet and works its way up completely consuming my body. It's akin to a strong vibration. Intensity of this feeling keeps gaining momentum more and more until this vibration takes over my entire vision, which then I eventually close my eyes. The vibrational quality and visions seem to be one n' the same. At times it can be EXTREMELY overwhelming. The more you give in to the feeling, usually the quicker the transition into that space. Fighting it does absolutely zippo. Think of it this way....someone throws you in the worst quicksand pit possible......it's kind of like that.

 

[Ice House]

Did you feel as though you had really done it this time that it is impossible to ever come back mentally healthy, mind not completely shattered?

Nope never experienced that before.


LoL!

Hehehe.........

Ive experienced that feeling so many times, it happens more often than not.

Thats pretty normal.

 

[march]

I appreciate your words. I really hope to integrate this experience. It seems very difficult to do so. It just was so immense. So real. There was no real story, or lesson except to be laid bare upon the bardo. To see a new reality and know that that is possible. This is nothing to mess with.

I used to think about suicide. We can get away from here so easily. Before I started taking spice I wanted to know why mystical experience is possible. Do we die, melt into our organics... no soul? Or do we have a soul, is there heaven and hell? All of those concepts are so simple to me now. They have nothing and everything to do with this. We need to live our lives as fully as graciously as we can. Suicide is not an option. There is so much more... like I saw in my trip... its all a test. If you can not live through this test... who knows.

So what do you think about life,death,hell,heaven,soul...now?I also experienced smilar things but I've still no idea about them.I've seen very weird things but I have still no reason to believe life after death or soul.It maybe a some kind of broadcast I think and I've heard indigenous people of Amazon describe Ayahuasca as a tv of the jungle and this make sense to me.

 

[lobo]

In my first aya experience, the plant tell me that life and dead is just different state of mind. Is the balance of oppossite. All this think after suicide thouth during the trip ... that words change me for ever.

 

[march]

In my first aya experience, the plant tell me that life and dead is just different state of mind. Is the balance of oppossite. All this think after suicide thouth during the trip ... that words change me for ever.

Which plant told you this?Is it one of the plants you mixed to ayahuasca or is it a visional plant or is it a usual plant you can see without dmt?And why did you think to suicide during the trip?

 

[lobo]

Well i fell during the trip a connection with Cappi plant... i don´t know why. I interprated that.

About suicide, during the trip i come a time when reach a conclusion where humans was lost to history. As for the planet that does not care if we all die, then I felt like the plant told me all this about life and death, it does not matter if we all die, life goes on elsewhere.

It's hard for me to put into words the experience and harder to transcribery in English.

Im always feel a very happy person.. and never have suicide thought, was a kind of short "crisis" during the trip. Nothing else.

 

[march]

I can understand you very well lobo even English is not my main language.

Actually I was thinking like you(or like the plant) before I first tried dmt.I mean yes,The Earth will not care if I live or die,life goes one somehow and somewhere like you said.I was thinking suicide may be an option and still I'm thinking like this.I can do it if I really feel I have to do.DMT didn't change this situation much for me but I've felt myself extra irrelevant,worthless and pointless during the first dmt trip.I was already knowing this truth but I think it may makes feel so bad to someone who sees oneself very special or very important; in fact this situation may be the biggest problem for many people think to meet dmt.