We'll look forward to hearing how that goes for you - best of luck!
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I'm sure I read something about Citric Acid decomposing into other things that can be a lung sensitiser.
If I feel like I've got sensitive lungs / airways already should I avoid Citric Acid in a Juice mix?
Though clearly reducing the alkalinity of Freebase is appealing.
If I feel like I've got sensitive lungs / airways already should I avoid Citric Acid in a Juice mix?
Though clearly reducing the alkalinity of Freebase is appealing.
Did you ever try this?
I am debating trying this with Citrate or Benzoate. I will aim to use 80-90% DMT Salt with 10-20% VG. VG because it dissolves polar salts better than PG, and because VG is smoother on the lungs.
Dmt citrate dissolves fine into PG and makes VG unnecessary, also in my experience it does not affect the smoothness at all.
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I like to add about 20% VG just because it makes the resulting liquid easier to handle and less prone to leaks. I agree that it doesn't seem to make the vapor smoother.
Pretty sure I'm going to mix some of this up soon, would 'a drop' of Vodka be OK to help with the dissolving Citric Acid in a mix of 3ml Juice? I read about adding a drop of vodka in regular nicotine vape juice.
I'm sometimes noticing that my current Juice feels like it makes sore spot at the back of my nose and the following morning gives me a dull headache so reducing the alkalinity seems like a good idea.
I'm sometimes noticing that my current Juice feels like it makes sore spot at the back of my nose and the following morning gives me a dull headache so reducing the alkalinity seems like a good idea.
Everyone is different, I know of several people who cannot tolerate PG at all.
For me, VG is noticeably smoother than PG.
Sicho Naut
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My cart sat in a dark cabinet in a ziplock bag for a couple of months. It gained a green hue during this period. I'm tossing it, but I wonder why it would turn green?
Notes:
*Self-extracted pure spice using the same NPS I used in previous succesfull extractions and which passed the evap test.
Notes:
*Self-extracted pure spice using the same NPS I used in previous succesfull extractions and which passed the evap test.
Is it freebase or a salt?
I use PG and VG to make vapes with citric acid. Thanks to Loveall
Sicho Naut
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Hi Loveall, it's a DMT citrate cart.
Perhaps a tiny excess of citric acid has reacted with a brass component, creating some copper citrate?
Is your cart made of plastic or glass ?
Sicho Naut
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Glass.
Did you know the pH? If no, can you check the pH before tossing with a pH strip? If over acidified, citric acid can corrode metal.
Sicho Naut
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Ph seems to be around 8. It must be something related to the cart, though, because I just found the mixing vial I used for this particular cart and the remnant in it is a nice dark yellow. The vial and cart were stored in identical conditions.
If not an excess of citric acid then perhaps a displacement reaction?
I would expect to see the green color if the copper competes with the DMT and kicks it off. Wouldn't copper have a stronger binding affinity? If this happens, what about iron? Steel vape coils contain iron in a fairly oxidized state after being heated many times. Iron citrate would turn the juice red. Chromium would also cause a greenish color.
I would expect to see the green color if the copper competes with the DMT and kicks it off. Wouldn't copper have a stronger binding affinity? If this happens, what about iron? Steel vape coils contain iron in a fairly oxidized state after being heated many times. Iron citrate would turn the juice red. Chromium would also cause a greenish color.
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Thanks, corrosion in acidic conditions is not what happened them. I don't know why there was a reaction in the cart.
