Not sure if this the best of places to put this but I feel the need to share some info and hopefully move forward with things for myself and with any luck help someone else out.
I have been very interested in playing with tetrahydroharmine, the effects are interesting and I very much enjoy doing the reading on how the chemistry works. I tried the vinegar and zinc method and that was fun and all but I didn't like added steps to remove the zinc. I had read that adding excessive naoh might let the zinc precipitate become water soluble but when I tried that with just zinc water and a chunk of naoh I still had the precipitate. Reading into things, its stated that aluminum will eventually redissolve back into water and might even be a better metal to use anyway. So I picked up some fine aluminum powder for a few bucks and test it out. I will throw this out there, aluminum and HCl react more violently than anything I had with the zinc, if anyone wants to try this do it with adequate caution. Anyway, after letting the aluminum dissolve and cool down I slowly added naoh and shook the container. It didn't take long and the liquid gelled up, I then added a chunk more naoh and shook and to my surprise it looked like I just had water. This was all good news so I took my relatively clean harmala alkaloids and did some half asked separation to make sure the bulk of what I had was harmine. I threw it in a glass container with a generous amount of HCl and slowly added maybe 5g of aluminum powder. I shook it pretty well on and off over a 24 hour period, and could still see it bubbling. I then filtered out the remaining aluminum powder and took a small portion of liquid to play with. I added an excessive amount of naoh and removed what ended up settling at the bottom and redissolved it in a new container with HCl. I compared what I had with a UV light. Whatever becomes of the aluminum has a light turquoise glow and what I had hoped was harmala alkaloids had was a nice shade of blue. I have since added excessive amounts of naoh to the rest of this test batch and as expected it went to a tell and back, but this time I was a little worried that maybe I was too impatient and got it too hot and destroyed the alkaloids as Iddidn't see anything precipitate out after the grll cycle. Well now its a day later and I have a fair chunk of something floating around. I'm going to separate and repeat the acid/base cycle a time or two and wash it out to remove the naoh and see what happens. I hope by then the aluminum is gone and I actually have thh in the end.
Sorry for one large paragraph, I am on my tablet and can't see much as I type and just rambled on for a while.
I have been very interested in playing with tetrahydroharmine, the effects are interesting and I very much enjoy doing the reading on how the chemistry works. I tried the vinegar and zinc method and that was fun and all but I didn't like added steps to remove the zinc. I had read that adding excessive naoh might let the zinc precipitate become water soluble but when I tried that with just zinc water and a chunk of naoh I still had the precipitate. Reading into things, its stated that aluminum will eventually redissolve back into water and might even be a better metal to use anyway. So I picked up some fine aluminum powder for a few bucks and test it out. I will throw this out there, aluminum and HCl react more violently than anything I had with the zinc, if anyone wants to try this do it with adequate caution. Anyway, after letting the aluminum dissolve and cool down I slowly added naoh and shook the container. It didn't take long and the liquid gelled up, I then added a chunk more naoh and shook and to my surprise it looked like I just had water. This was all good news so I took my relatively clean harmala alkaloids and did some half asked separation to make sure the bulk of what I had was harmine. I threw it in a glass container with a generous amount of HCl and slowly added maybe 5g of aluminum powder. I shook it pretty well on and off over a 24 hour period, and could still see it bubbling. I then filtered out the remaining aluminum powder and took a small portion of liquid to play with. I added an excessive amount of naoh and removed what ended up settling at the bottom and redissolved it in a new container with HCl. I compared what I had with a UV light. Whatever becomes of the aluminum has a light turquoise glow and what I had hoped was harmala alkaloids had was a nice shade of blue. I have since added excessive amounts of naoh to the rest of this test batch and as expected it went to a tell and back, but this time I was a little worried that maybe I was too impatient and got it too hot and destroyed the alkaloids as Iddidn't see anything precipitate out after the grll cycle. Well now its a day later and I have a fair chunk of something floating around. I'm going to separate and repeat the acid/base cycle a time or two and wash it out to remove the naoh and see what happens. I hope by then the aluminum is gone and I actually have thh in the end.
Sorry for one large paragraph, I am on my tablet and can't see much as I type and just rambled on for a while.
Ok, but the machine's principle at play still is a goody. Thanks for the links and helping my braincells out sometimes. :want: 
