First Aya experience, Preparation

[bassterd]

Hey everybody,

I'm doing my first ayahuasca ceremony in 2 weeks time, and i just had some questions regarding the diet...

Im avoiding all meat, but do you know if whey protein powder is ok, as it is not from a meat source? I would still like to be able to get a good amount of protein without having to eat kilos of beans.

Also i am naturally a bit nervous, but also very excited and i wish to learn a lot from it. We're doing it with a group of about 7 or 8 people with a man from chile who has lived with the shipibo-conibo indians for some time and learned how to hold ayahuasca ceremonies. Are there any mental preparations you can recommend? I meditate and do yoga, but i guess there is only so much you can do for the pre-flight anxiety.

Shanti

 

[universecannon]

The western dietary restrictions thing is mostly a myth rooted in a misunderstanding of how harmalas are different from pharmaceutical MAOI in that they mostly inhibit mao-a and not mao-b. And there is countless variations on the dieta in the amazon, not all of them exclude meat either. You mostly just need to avoid MDMA, certain RC's (so ive heard), SSRI medications, and too many stimulants.

That said, the better the food the deeper and clearer my trips seem to be. The quality of the materials you use to literally build and fuel your brain on a sub-cellular level can have a big impact, obviously...and not just a few days before the trip, but throughout life.

I dont think the protein would be a problem. But either way i wouldn't worry so much about it in general. Its almost hard for people not to get enough protein, and if anything to me it seems like people are more likely to get too much protein if anything.

 

[bassterd]

Thanks =) Yeah i came across a few threads saying the same thing. Im still gonna adhere to a no meat diet, and refrain from sex for about a week or so, out of personal choice. Lots of fruits and veggies for the next two weeks. Very excited! =D

Edit: and cannabis because i have a feeling that my (ab)use of it will come up and if i haven't smoked for 2 weeks prior i think it may be easier to deal with

 

[Kurukulla]

The western dietary restrictions thing is mostly a myth rooted in a misunderstanding of how harmalas are different from pharmaceutical MAOI in that they mostly inhibit mao-a and not mao-b. And there is countless variations on the dieta in the amazon, not all of them exclude meat either. You mostly just need to avoid MDMA, certain RC's (so ive heard), SSRI medications, and too many stimulants.

That said, the better the food the deeper and clearer my trips seem to be. The quality of the materials you use to literally build and fuel your brain on a sub-cellular level can have a big impact, obviously...and not just a few days before the trip, but throughout life.

I dont think the protein would be a problem. But either way i wouldn't worry so much about it in general. Its almost hard for people not to get enough protein, and if anything to me it seems like people are more likely to get too much protein if anything.

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I'm new here and I can"t pm or post in any other section !!!!

 

[omasagai]

If you are looking for vegan protein sources, wheat and oats have the highest protein content besides legumes. You just have to eat a whole bunch of it if you're used to getting most of your protein from meat.

 

[Hjortron]

Im avoiding all meat, but do you know if whey protein powder is ok, as it is not from a meat source? I would still like to be able to get a good amount of protein without having to eat kilos of beans.

I don't think eating meat is a problem in the slightest, actually. I'd echo (and possibly extend) what universecannon has said, in that no food is dangerous in combination with a RIMA. As long as you avoid all other drugs entirely, you will probably be completely fine. Hell, I occasionally order pizza on the comedown of my anahuasca sessions (although it did land a head-ache the first time I did it). But I don't take other chemicals and I live a very healthy lifestyle overall, and you should go easy in the beginning and experiment with your own personal tolerance for tyramine in combination with RIMAs carefully, and it's good that you've done your homework.

Also i am naturally a bit nervous, but also very excited and i wish to learn a lot from it. We're doing it with a group of about 7 or 8 people with a man from chile who has lived with the shipibo-conibo indians for some time and learned how to hold ayahuasca ceremonies. Are there any mental preparations you can recommend? I meditate and do yoga, but i guess there is only so much you can do for the pre-flight anxiety.

It's good that you are a little nervous, I think. It only goes to show that you are not arrogant towards the possibilities. But at the same time, there's nothing to be afraid of except for your own psyche and sub-conscious.

A possible approach I would advice, albeit the fact that I'm still a novice psychonaut, is to view the journey as a game of acceptance. Is there something, whether it's true or not, that you have a problem accepting? Examples might be that life is completely pointless, that nothing matters, that death is the end, that there is life after death, that there is or isn't a god, that reality is infinitely crazy and complex, etc. The point is, it's not relevant what's really true, but whether you can accept all these possibilities. But once you can accept anything, there is nothing that the trip can't throw at you that you can't really handle.

Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe it's a useless or even terrible advice. That's just where I'm at personally for the moment, it's my approach for now

Take care, I think you'll be fine!