First time ayahufaila. help!

[bluecat]

Ok, so I made up the brew from 40g mimosa and a bit of vinegar, boiled three times (1 litre at a time, about 2hrs each boil), and left it to cool, boiled down to about 1inch high in the pan, drained and reboiled. doses were about 100ml each and 4g of crushed rue in a tea per person about 20mins before the mimosa drink. Mimosa was a dark browney purple and pretty opaque, slightly thicker than water.

I drank it (it tasted like hairspray, incense and bile combined), screwed my face up a bit, sat for an hour, spewed my ring and then..... Nothing.

Did I mess up or was it just rubbish ingredients I got? I got all the shit bits and none of the happy bits.

Cheers!!

Blu

 

[Ez]

So, there are a lot of variables here. First off, how many people did you share the tea with? That small of an amount of mimosa doesn't really go very far. My next concern is how you cooked it. It is possible to burn out the alkaloids, so it's important to cook at a very low slow boil. Especially when you are trying to reduce the amount of liquid that you have. I doubt that your rue was bad, but it is possible that the mhrb was poor quality. Check out the vendor section, which has a list of reputable vendors. I personally enjoy meridian botanicals, but there are many options. Ime if the mimosa is no good, there isn't a purge. Sometimes that's just the nature of the brew.
I usually start with a 20g dose - which is usually equivalent of almost an eight of shrooms. If I'm trying to go deep for some serious healing, I will double that amount. I also recomend brewing up a few doses for each person so that you can take more if you're not feeling it or you just want to go deeper. I've found that dosing twice can be a very good thing. As always, treat your brew with care and respect. Never leave it unattended! If you can't be near it, just put it away for another time. If you have any other questions shoot me a message.

 

[bluecat]

cheers for the reply

It was from alternative mind that i got the mimosa from, me and my partner shared it and the final measure there was about 400-500ml of mimosa liquid. Doses were about 100ml each (how I got that down in the first place is beyond me...) and we took it about half an hour after the Rue. Cooked it on a low heat, so it was just simmering over. Felt a slight tingle from the rue so from what ive read on here that was fine.

And oh yes, there was a purge

 

[jamie]

"I usually start with a 20g dose - which is usually equivalent of almost an eight of shrooms. If I'm trying to go deep for some serious healing, I will double that amount"

Uhh..:roll: ..something is way wrong about that. 20g is a huge dose of mimosa..way way way more than equivalent to an eigth of mushrooms..and double that? You either have bunk mimosa, are completely insensitive or just need to learn how to properly brew..

5-7g should be all you ever need..3g is where the visionary aspect of the admixture for me becomes consistantly apparent..5-7g and I am just flying through the spirit world and when I open my eyes the spirits are in the room with me. Even the hardheads here on this site dont talk about needing more than 10g as the upper limit.

20g is NOT equivalt to an eighth of mushrooms! It is far far more intense and deep..take caution and get some more experience..you purged-the brew worked! Up the dose of mimosa by a gram or 2 but dont just double the dose or down 20g..

You should also feel effects from 4g of rue alone without the admixture even..4g of rue is enough for visions alone when you lay down..

 

[dreamer042]

yes 20 grams is waaaayyy waaaayyy too much mimosa! I do hope you mean without any harmalas because that kind of dose while mao inhibited would have even the hardest of hard heads begging for mercy.

 

[jbark]

Thirded. 20g is an insane dose for pretty much anyone. Start low (3-5g at the most), then redose if you need to. Don't let your first time terrorize you from ever going deep again.

JBArk

 

[Ez]

Hmm... I've tried bark from a variety of vendors and that has been what has worked for me. I started small and worked my way up - because I read that 10 grams should be more than enough. For me it wasn't and hasn't been. I'm sorry if I've misinformed anyone. I spent a lot of time researching these things before going in and if the amount of spice I pulled from my last batch is any indication of how good my mimosa is, I would say it's right on par. Perhaps someone could direct me to a better vendor in a pm.

 

[dreamer042]

Ez:
Are you taking 20 grams of mimosa alone, or are you taking it with caapi or rue?

If you are taking it with harmalas, I'd say there is probably an issue with your brewing technique because that is a pretty extreme dosage.

 

[Apoc]

was your mimosa whole or shredded or powdered? Do you take enough rue to feel the effects of that alone? I refuse to believe that both you and your partner can take 4g of rue and 10g of mimosa without it kicking at least on of your asses. There is either something wrong with your bark, or you are preparing it wrong somehow. Or maybe you purged before you processed the dmt.

 

[bluecat]

about 3g or so of rue, brewed it from a list of recipes on erowid.... i must have just had shitty mimosa has anyone else had bad experience with alternative mind? got it from there

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

was your mimosa whole or shredded or powdered? Do you take enough rue to feel the effects of that alone? I refuse to believe that both you and your partner can take 4g of rue and 10g of mimosa without it kicking at least on of your asses. There is either something wrong with your bark, or you are preparing it wrong somehow. Or maybe you purged before you processed the dmt.

my first experience with aya was similar.
114g of caapi and 30g of mimosa between 2 people.
neither of us felt much cept a mild body high.
i blame it on a mistaken egg white fining, but idk for sure

 

[bluecat]

well, better luck next time, ive got sore muscles from throwing up and a headache, aswell as being 30 quid down, but.... I will prevail > Just need to find a decent uk supplier, i think that last one was shit. From the doses we took and what most of you have said, I should have been flying high, but never felt a thing

 

[bluecat]

also, after I purged, I took another cup to see if it worked - also, he never purged but felt very sick, so like i say, its either crap mimosa or ive not boiled right.

 

[Global]

Ok, so the others have done a good job at narrowing down some variables to why this may have gone wrong, but I'd like to know what kind of a stomach did you go in on (were you fasting? did you eat a little before? if so, what?). Also, what were you doing while you were waiting for the mimosa to kick in? Were you laying down? Were you walking around? How were you passing time until you realized it wasn't going to work? Also what are you using to filter? Some filters kinds of filters can have the tendency to be able to filter out a lot of the actives along with the junk.

 

[bluecat]

Ok, so the others have done a good job at narrowing down some variables to why this may have gone wrong, but I'd like to know what kind of a stomach did you go in on (were you fasting? did you eat a little before? if so, what?). Also, what were you doing while you were waiting for the mimosa to kick in? Were you laying down? Were you walking around? How were you passing time until you realized it wasn't going to work? Also what are you using to filter? Some filters kinds of filters can have the tendency to be able to filter out a lot of the actives along with the junk.

fasted for about 30 hours prior to taking it, as did he. as for a filter, just used a piece of cloth to catch the rubbish. I'd already made a playlist up so i was sitting chilling out (sick bucket at the ready) and tuning into the music. I'm just gutted, i spent this weeks weed money on all the stuff for it! lol

 

[jamie]

fasting tends to make these things weaker.

 

[Global]

Ok, so the others have done a good job at narrowing down some variables to why this may have gone wrong, but I'd like to know what kind of a stomach did you go in on (were you fasting? did you eat a little before? if so, what?). Also, what were you doing while you were waiting for the mimosa to kick in? Were you laying down? Were you walking around? How were you passing time until you realized it wasn't going to work? Also what are you using to filter? Some filters kinds of filters can have the tendency to be able to filter out a lot of the actives along with the junk.

fasted for about 30 hours prior to taking it, as did he. as for a filter, just used a piece of cloth to catch the rubbish. I'd already made a playlist up so i was sitting chilling out (sick bucket at the ready) and tuning into the music. I'm just gutted, i spent this weeks weed money on all the stuff for it! lol

You might just wanna eat the night before and fast the morning of if you plan on fasting. It's hard to tell if the piece of cloth could be a good filter or not because it could really be anything. What you would wanna try next time would be using a plain, clean cotton t-shirt (you might not wanna have your heart set on wearing it again) to filter. This is generally accepted as an effective way for filtering out all the stuff you don't want while recovering all the stuff you do want.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

instead of fasting, try eating only fruit the day before/day of the brew. I've found that my guts hurt less if there is something to buffer the liquid; however, starches tend to slow absorbtion waaay down. But I don't really know anything.