Getting the DMT from 300g of good MHRB with not so much pulling and waiting

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It raises just as many questions as answers.

That about sums it up for the most part.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

Looks a lot more than I thought. Bit more yellow though so might keep it in a separate vial. Edit: 800mg it weighs. I'll do another pull but not leave it so long in heat or naptha in for as long. Then I'll throw away the soup.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

This pull is no more yellow than the last ones so might mix it in with the recent stuff. It's a lot lighter and fluffier though, it's 830mg now that I added the DMT from the corners of the dish and fully scraped it all up.

I put this pull in the refrigerator for 6 hours then put it in the freezer. It's definitely denser and heavier when it's put straight in the freezer. And lighter and fluffier when cooled down more gradually. It doesn't make a difference to it though strength and effects wise (imo), just seems to crash out different. There's a vial of 1g of light, white fluffy crystals, and a vial of 2.5g that's a tad yellow that takes up as much space as the light and fluffy 1g.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

I did another pull since that 830mg one and got 320mg that looks the same as the above, so put them both in the same vial together, so 1.15g in that one now. I am doing one last pull now with the naptha from the last one, I don't expect much though it should be exhausted by now. And it's definitely going to be pretty yellow even if so.

This is what I got in the end from 500g MHRB (pic uploaded). The vial on the left is from a 200g extraction before making this thread (2.5g in that one). The 3 vials on the right is from the current 300g extraction. Because this extraction has gave me different looking DMT like the slight difference in colour and big difference in density and fluffiness I've put them in separate vials. The vials from the current, second extraction go from the left being the first few pulls that's dense and heavy, the middle one is one patient pull (3 days after the one before that) with not so much heat and time in heat bath and slowly, gradually cooled it down so it crashed out differently giving bigger, lighter and fluffier crystals, also closest to white if aesthetics matter but still does the same thing for me. The right is the recent 2 pulls giving me pretty light and fluffy yellowish DMT.

I've kind of experimented with having long gaps between pulls this time and how much heat in the heat bath and how long, and slowly cooling it down compared to put straight in cold freezer to precipitate, it makes a difference in how fluffy or dense it turns out.

Altogether that's 3.6g from 300g, and 2.5g from 200g. Giving me a total of 6.1g. I've smoked a bit of each of this stuff to try it so add a few hundred more mg to it.

What I've been recently smoking mostly and finishing off is what I had left from a 100g mhrb extraction I did going back about 6 or 7 weeks. That's now all been smoked and kind of glad to be honest. It was very good though. At least it's now one less vial though. I need to kind of slow down smoking it as well I think, I've done it a lot recently. I've only ever had 1.2 g at the most before years back, now I've got all this lol.

If you look closely you'll see that it goes from lightest weight being the biggest in size, to the heaviest being the smallest in size lol. Goes to show that it's important to weigh the doses..

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

Looks like that vial of 1.1g consisting of the 2 previous pulls is going to have more in it tomorrow. I did a cold pull using the naptha from the previous pull and quite surprised to be honest. The naptha was in the base soup for 5 hours, giving it several roll arounds each hour or so, and leaving upside down for around half an hour.

I don't think it will be anymore yellow than the last 2 pulls.
My fridge is -4c and after 6 hours in there a lot had precipitated already. I'll be taking it out the freezer at about 8am. I'm guessing roughly around 200mg but will know for sure in morning.

 

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My fridge is -4c and after 6 hours in there a lot had precipitated already. I'll be taking it out the freezer at about 8am.

Is that the lowest temperature you can muster? You'll get far better yields if you can get a proper 'four star' freeze on it of -18°C or lower. You may be able to achieve this in absence of better refrigeration if you can produce an ice/salt bath using finely crushed ice and either sodium chloride (for ~ -22°C) or hydrated calcium chloride (-55°C if done properly).

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

Is that the lowest temperature you can muster? You'll get far better yields if you can get a proper 'four star' freeze on it of -18°C or lower. You may be able to achieve this in absence of better refrigeration if you can produce an ice/salt bath using finely crushed ice and either sodium chloride (for ~ -22°C) or hydrated calcium chloride (-55°C if done properly).

That's just the refrigerator temp, the freezer is much colder at -22c. I've put it on highest setting so even the refrigerator is very cold, everything in the refrigerator is rock solid lol. I leave it in the refrigerator first and then put it in the freezer, I get lighter and fluffier DMT that way. When it's put straight in the freezer it tends to be smaller crystals but heavier and denser. Still does the same thing though, just aesthetics more than anything imo.

Thanks for the info though, next extraction will involve an acid stage. I went stb on this one but waited a few days between pulls. This current 300g mhrb extraction I've used a lot less naptha than I did for the 200g mhrb which I did a pull on everyday.

 

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That's just the refrigerator temp, the freezer is much colder at -22c. I've put it on highest setting so even the refrigerator is very cold, everything in the refrigerator is rock solid lol. I leave it in the refrigerator first and then put it in the freezer, I get lighter and fluffier DMT that way. When it's put straight in the freezer it tends to be smaller crystals but heavier and denser. Still does the same thing though, just aesthetics more than anything imo.

Thanks for the info though, next extraction will involve an acid stage. I went stb on this one but waited a few days between pulls. This current 300g mhrb extraction I've used a lot less naptha than I did for the 200g mhrb which I did a pull on everyday.

ah ok - phew! You had me panicked there for a moment The fridge before freezer method is a good way of doing it as the crystals can form more slowly and will therefore be of a higher purity. Insulating your crystallisation container will help to slow the temperature gradient and can lead to larger crystals, which should again tend towards higher purity.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

ah ok - phew! You had me panicked there for a moment The fridge before freezer method is a good way of doing it as the crystals can form more slowly and will therefore be of a higher purity. Insulating your crystallisation container will help to slow the temperature gradient and can lead to larger crystals, which should again tend towards higher purity.

Lol, no 'fridge' part of the fridge/freezer as we call it in Britain lol, would be capable to fully precip DMT. I get some precipitation after 6 hours in the fridge, then put it in the freezer for 18+ hours.

 

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Lol, no 'fridge' part of the fridge/freezer as we call it in Britain lol, would be capable to fully precip DMT. I get some precipitation after 6 hours in the fridge, then put it in the freezer for 18+ hours.

Indeed. I still thought it best to check since it would be a shame if something got overlooked and your yields were suboptimal
It's maybe something I could have found out by reading the whole thread except it's the weekend and I couldn't be arsed

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

Indeed. I still thought it best to check since it would be a shame if something got overlooked and your yields were suboptimal
It's maybe something I could have found out by reading the whole thread except it's the weekend and I couldn't be arsed

Lol, been there myself a few times on other forums, just reading the past few posts and then commenting lol. It has been pretty long now though to be honest. It's now a full month since I started it.
It's could be a good and handy thread for stb lurkers to get input from. The pics of the vials from the same extraction but from different pulls hopefully are an example of how different it can turn out to the newbies.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

The last pull has finished evaporating, light and fluffy with a bit of yellow, just like the 2 previous pulls, but just 240mg (not disappointed though, I was expecting around 200mg). I'm going to throw the soup away now. I will be extracting more soon when I get more root bark. Don't know when that will be, probably when I just want to do it for fun lol. The DMT I have now is lots and lots for just me. If I extracted more I don't know what I'd even do with it. I guess it's just a good job it stores well for a long time lol. Edit: the 1.1g has now become 1.4g. It seems like a .3g increase, but the 1.1g was actually 1.17g. So the 240mg made it 1.41g.

Overall I am beyond extremely happy with the results. If there is any DMT left in the jars of soup it can't be much and might take a long while before it's worth pulling it out.

Normally home made from scratch, curry sauce goes off after 3 or 4 days in the fridge. It's been over a week, but due to the fridge being so cold since it's been in I'm sure it'll be fine still. Just like the chicken breast that has a use by date of 26th August lol. I'll be glad to turn the fridge/freezer down now though. No more defrosting stuff just from out of the fridge lol.