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Glass Shard Re-Crystallization Pictorial

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Plasmod3smata

Justin Thyme
Hello! This pictorial was created because of a lack of detailed information about the re-crystallization process. For some, like this kitty I know, learning about re-crystallization was frustrating as there were a lot of variations in method. Many were very similar and all had the same basic concepts but this pictorial is for anyone who has struggled with the process of transforming yellow or off-white powder into clear shards of DMT! Re-crystallization and be preformed multiple times however if one starts with yellow, off-white or white powder doing it one time can yield good clean crystals. Depending on how yellow your original product is a good amount of loss can be expected. A sacrifice for pure product! One that is very much worth it... smoking clear glass shards is as smooth as butter!

1. Obtain deep pot and fill it with hot water
2. Obtain strainer and set it in the pot of water and adjust level so the water comes up enough to cover half of a mason jar.
3. Turn heat on high to bring water to boil.
Note: Any other creative + safe means of a boiling waterbath will work for this, just make sure your holding container is not touching the bottom of the heating container.

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4. Test digital scale accuracy using a 5g nickel (4.98, close enough)
5. Weigh out 1g DMT and put into a shotglass. Pyrex "mini-measure" shotglasses work well as they have ml markings on them.

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6. Seal about 50-60ml of solvent (heptane works best) in a mason jar and let sit in boiling water bath for 15 minutes
Note: Unscrew lid and release pressure buildup as necessary. After 15 minutes solvent should have tiny sreams of bubbles in it but it may not.
7. Remove pot from heat.
8. Take jar of hot solvent, unscrew lid and swirl for about 10 seconds to let cool just a bit.
9. Pour about 25-30ml hot solvent into shotglass containing DMT. Typically a full shotglass worth.
10. Mix thoroughly with eyedropper.
Note: Stick eyedropper to the bottom of the shotglass and suck in + squeeze out solvent to thoroughly mix particles until all is dissolved.
11. Use eye dropper to fish out any hair\dust chunks that remain in the shotglass.

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11. Remove strainer from pot and add ice cubes to reduce temperature.
12. Reduce temperature until a kitchen thermometer reads 150F
13. Put strainer back into pot and adjust water level so the shotglass can be placed on the strainer and the water will only come 3/4 up the glass.
14. Cover the shotglass containing the DMT solvent with foil and set into 150f waterbath.
15. Let sit for several hours until water is back to room temperature.

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16. Remove shotglass from waterbath. Notice the separation of oils.
17. Use eye dropper to suck up yellow oils and squirt into second shotglass.
Note: In that new shotglass oil will sink and any DMT solvent you grabbed will float.
18. Tilt the second shotglass and suck back out any remaining clean DMT solvent and add back to original shotglass.
Note: As an alternative the clean solvent can be poured back into the original shotglass as the oil will stick to the bottom.

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19. Take first shotglass with DMT solvent and pour into a third clean shotglass. The little bit of oil remaining will stick to the bottom of the glass.
Note: Notice in picture that once dried the remaining oil still contains a good ammount of DMT and should be saved for future re-crystallizing.

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20. Cover shotglass with foil and let sit for 3-4 hours in room temperature then put in freezer for 24 hours.
21. After the freezer, pour off solvent into collection dish and put shotglass in front of a fan and wait 10-15 minutes or until dry.

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22. Scrape crystals off and enjoy! Here are some pics, each one of a different batch, after only a SINGLE re-crystallization.

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acolon_5 said:
I have noticed that bestine does pick up a small amount of oils (hotter bestine = more oils dissolved) and those will crash out before the DMT does. To avoid this I will use a little more bestine than needed and not heat it up as much. I will then dissolve my spice, and let it sit for a few minutes (4-5 at most). Most of the oils will fall to the bottom and can be sucked out or the solvent can be moved to a new container. The resulting spice has almost no yellow coloration.




I do it pretty much the same way , i always collect the yellowness/the oils from the bottom , and im still not sure how to further process it. There should be a large amount of spice in it .... along with dmt n oxide and other stuff
 
whiter spice is a bit more cosmic and doesnt seem to have quite the punch as the slightly yellowed crystals

its smoother..and the breakthrough seems to be really easy...and the taste..well it smells like flowers to SWIM
 
so SWIM is going to be doing their second extraction in a few weeks and i was wondering, is there a recommended method for recrystalizing MORE than 1g at a time? could SWIM just multiply the amounts according to how many grams are used?
 
normal recrystallization and adjusting quantitites should be fine... around 30ml of warm (not hot) naphtha per g of dmt, letting it dissolve for a minute or two. To make sure you picked most of the dmt, after you pull out the naphtha away from the goo, add another, say, 5ml warm naphtha , let it stay for a minute and pull out again...
 
ok, thanks a lot. SWIM didnt even do a recrystalization on his first extraction and ended up with some sparkly almost-white powder. SWIM cant wait to see what it looks like (and what it reveals) after rextlizing it.

also, would it be possible to grow larger crystals in a vacuum? i dont really know all of the science behind it.
 
Growing big crystals is fun and nice but it is not required for a hypothetical smoking. In fact SWIM found that a bit of color in the spice gave him a more rich hyperspatial point of view. Very subjective anyway.
 
The only time SWIM has bothered with trying to get white and glassy spice is when he was introducing his friend to the spice for the first time. He felt that it looking nice, pretty, and clean would help her with having the right pre-launch headspace.

Other than then, SWIM agrees with those who think slightly colored spice has something a bit "more".
 
if you like growing crystals just for fun you can get even bigger crystals than everyone here has been talking about!

whatchu do is the same but then after you have let your crystals sit for a couple days add another round of supersaturated dmt solution on top of those crystals and let that stuff slowly evaporate, when thats done go for another one. im havnt done this because im impatient but im sure crystals over an inch are possible this way!

or heres another idea, i call it the staligmite method

get a dropper that slowly drops solution onto a crystal you have growing, by the time the next drop hits the last one has evaporated and left crystal. watch your crystal tower grow! lol. not sure if this works but its definatly worth trying out.

i know this swimmer who might try it out next time he has some d but right now i think hes focusing on a bufo extraction
 
everythingsflashin said:
so, it would really only be necessary to do one recrystallization? and also, would crystals properly form in a container with all the air sucked out to prevent oxidation or do you need some air flow?

One is usually enough, often the primary freeze-precipitated stuff is already good enough.
To prevent formation of the n-oxide, it might be more practical to cover the container in a blanket of CO2 than sucking oxygen out. CO2 is easy to generate from soda, bicarbonate or limestone and an acid.

Nice crystals shown here, really inspiring!
 
SWIM just has a quick question. Should all the spice be dissolved in the solvent? When SWIM tried recrystallizing, he found that some yellow oily stuff formed on the bottom of the container as he was mixing in the spice; it only dissolved when more solvent was added. Should this oily stuff be dissolved too? From what I've read, it should separate again after cooling, but I want to be certain before telling SWIM anything.

As for the CO2 thing, it could be potentially dangerous unless there's maths behind the quantities... you don't want your container exploding from an excessive build-up of gasses.
 
I'm seeing that the optimal solvent is heptane. Now (1.) would it be undesirable to use a heptane, diethyl ether mixture or (2.) would this mixture need to be distilled? (3.) Is heptane polar or non polar?

If the answers happen to fall under the following.
(1.) Yes dont use diethyl ehter only use heptane.
(2.) Yes distill it unless you know some other way to seperate those two solvents.
(3.) Heptane is ?? (this one doesnt really matter too much at this time, I juss askin')

So if the unfortunate responses to my 3 questions are as I fearfully replied above. Then I just have two more simple questions.
(1a.)Have you ever tried using heptane and diethyl ether for this crystallization technique?
(1b.)Do you happen to know the boiling points of heptane and diethyl ether and do they need to be fractionally distilled or will a simple vacuum distillation work?


Now nobody in their right mind outside a professionally equiped laboratory wants to fuck around distilling ether. Especially me.

anyone ????
 
lowjackal said:
(3.) Is heptane polar or non polar?

If the answers happen to fall under the following.
(1.) Yes dont use diethyl ehter only use heptane.
(2.) Yes distill it unless you know some other way to seperate those two solvents.
(3.) Heptane is ?? (this one doesnt really matter too much at this time, I juss askin')

So if the unfortunate responses to my 3 questions are as I fearfully replied above. Then I just have two more simple questions.
(1a.)Have you ever tried using heptane and diethyl ether for this crystallization technique?
(1b.)Do you happen to know the boiling points of heptane and diethyl ether and do they need to be fractionally distilled or will a simple vacuum distillation work?


Now nobody in their right mind outside a professionally equiped laboratory wants to fuck around distilling ether. Especially me.

anyone ????

Freebase DMT is soluable in NPS (non polar solvents). Bestine is a non polar solvent.

I've never distilled my bestine (heptane), and don't feel that I need to. It dries very clean. I would use heptane over diethyl ether any day. I think it evaporates too quickly to be a good recrystalization solvent, but then again I've never tried it.

As you said, don't try to distill it.

Naphtha will also work well to recrystalize, there is no need to try and make a binary solvent unless you are experimenting on new and better ways to recrystalize. If it's your first time just stick with bestine or naphtha.
 
The question arises from the fact that the the can of supertech starting fluid swim is looking at has 2 ingredients:
Heptane (142-82-5) and Diethyl Ether (60-29-7), plus carbon dioxide as a propellant.
This is why the question was put forth asking if a combination of the two would work.
Bestine is sold as what? and for how much?
As this is $2.09 per 11 oz. can of supertech starting fluid.
Maybe I'll see if it's a worth while product mixture and report back with pictures the end results.

I'm off to find out what the hell bestine is.
 
everythingsflashin said:
ok cool. so would it work to just have a large container with CO2 creating substance at the bottom, and place the grow dish in the container and seal it all off?
As for the CO2 thing, it could be potentially dangerous unless there's maths behind the quantities... you don't want your container exploding from an excessive build-up of gasses.

No,no! Only close it after the CO2 has displaced all the air in the container. Filling with a tube from a CO2 generator is most practical. But being a weak acid, would it react with freebase DMT? It's a bit over the top anyway... I'm not going to try it.
 
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