Maybe some type of dry tek with ethanol would be enough.
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Gleditsia triacanthos (Honey locust) is indeed entheogenic.
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Thanks. What is a dry Tek? Forgive my ignorance
Its conjectured that the root bark is the most active part, and yes, at least theoretically/anecdotally, DMT. I think that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of here lol.okey, my interest is peaking here rn
was thinking about planting one of those anyway for other reasons (good for soil, pods are good for chickens)
what part would be active? does it contains DMT?
There's also some conjecture that fresh (red, new growth) thorns may contain a high concentration of the active principle, but they are also likely to contain triacanthine, which I believe has some toxic properties, but I could be mistaken
I still need to look at pulling a few roots out of one of my hedgerows. Is it likely to be similar to Mimosa hostilis, where a prolonged dry spell boosts the alkaloid levels? That would make it simpler than having to grub around in a muddy ditch, too.
Yeah, I wonder what environmental and genetic factors influence alkaloid content. Seems like this species needs a bunch of testing. I'm still wondering if anyone can confirm that it does in fact contain dmt
At the moment Keeper trout reported finding it way back but no bioassay…and the more recent P.D. Newman bioassays. I am unaware of anyone else reporting it as active.
Sounds like more data is needed. If anyone has the means and wants to test some, DM
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I have been patiently waiting to run into a plant to extract DMT from..although this tree has a lot of questions surrounding it thus far, I am willing to give it all a go, hopefully...
I have located several in my local area and would like to get started.. so no go on the seed pods, or leaves random bark etc.? I have many..it appears I will actually need some of the roots though.
I have located several in my local area and would like to get started.. so no go on the seed pods, or leaves random bark etc.? I have many..it appears I will actually need some of the roots though.
Root bark is the main thing people say.
Stem/trunk bark may be worth assaying as well. Same with fresh (red) thorns. If this species is active, it would be great to know if there is an above ground part that can be accessed, ideally without disturbing the tree too much. In my experience, thorns can be knocked/cut/scraped off and will regrow with fresh, red, vigorous growth the following season. So if thorns are active, that would be ideal.
I forget where I encountered this information, perhaps it was from Newman's book, but there was an anecdotal ethnographic account of Warriors of a certain people rubbing a red paste on their skin before hunting, supposedly made from crushed Gleditsia thorns. While DMT is not orally active without monoamine oxidase inhibition, of course, it it is able to be absorbed transdermally, from what I understand. Given measured improvements in visual acuity from low dose serotonergic psychedelics, a topical microdose prior to hunting/battle makes sense
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