Has anybody observed The Voice?

[Dream2Awaken]

Who here has observed The Voice?

For those who have, what is your input on the matter? Any and all input is valid input so please share freely.

 

[jamie]

With mushrooms, yes many times.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

What about when your sober?

 

[AfroHorror]

I thought it was just my voice taking on another personality.
Sober not really, you?

 

[carlinesque]

Dream2Awaken:

*you're.

 

[Korey]

It is impossible for me to say, as it's so impossible for me to know if I really heard the voice or my own because hearing voices is impossible and definitely not my own voice becoming "other" because I'm high as giraffe pussy on psychedelic drugs. :roll:

 

[universecannon]

^ no need to be a grammar nazi


i've heard all sorts of weird things. people have been hearing voices in the head for thousands of years if you look into it

 

[carlinesque]

Universecannon:
*No, *Grammar-Nazi, *I've, *People, and there needs to be a period at the end of that sentence.

=) =p

 

[Dream2Awaken]

My mistake on the spelling error. As you have already corrected it, I will leave it as is.

I thought it was just my voice taking on another personality.
Sober not really, you?

I thought the same for a good while. All people hear it at some point. Some people are just too unaware to notice it right now. Once you notice it you begin to dis·identify with it on a conscious level. Often it will change personalities and act as if there is another voice speaking to your voice. I am not sure if you have a voice. One must be open to both sides, and possibilities. Too many speak as if they are positive they have no voice, and likewise for the other side. You may simply be observing a voice. A voice that will change tactics numerous times in an attempt to make you believe it is your own. One of many being it acting as if there are 2 voices. Its and yours. It may just be talking to itself as if it is having a 2 entity conversation, or it could be your voice talking to another. Of course please do not just take my word for it. Search for the answer yourself and decide for yourself. Hopefully we will someday definitively know, but it's nothing more then speculation at the moment.

It is impossible for me to say, as it's so impossible for me to know if I really heard the voice or my own because hearing voices is impossible and definitely not my own voice becoming "other" because I'm high as giraffe pussy on psychedelic drugs.

Like the previous paragraph regarding AfroHorror's post I would say it could not be your own, and that you had a moment where you were observing The Voice as the outside entity that you are. Imagine if you will instead of it being a voice, or voices that you're hearing inside your head. You are an entity looking through the eyes of a body observing its mind. Silently.

I have been on and off sober for about 6 months. Completely sober for about 2, and I hear it as clearly as I would if someone was having a face to face conversation with me. It was actually the reason I began to sober up. So that I could test and see if drugs was what was causing it. I then feared insanity until I realized it was completely natural once you've begun to dis·identify with your mind.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

^ no need to be a grammar nazi


i've heard all sorts of weird things. people have been hearing voices in the head for thousands of years if you look into it

It makes me wonder if they didn't understand what people have begun to understand now, or if they did, but somewhere along the lines people just forgot.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

Another way to think of it is instead of seeing yourself as your body hearing a voice talk to it. You are an entity standing behind the body and voice, observing the voice talking to the body.

 

[jamie]

What about when your sober?

Sure while laying in bed at night really relaxed it has happened..mushrooms it happens every single time though as long as I lay down in a silent dark spot.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

What about when your sober?

Sure while laying in bed at night really relaxed it has happened..mushrooms it happens every single time though as long as I lay down in a silent dark spot.

Have you had any moments since you've began to notice it where there is gaps in it speaking. A sort of still silence that can often be euphoric, or is it more like incessant thinking that just goes on whenever you're aware of it?

Also have you experienced an "Ego Death" on mushrooms? I believe when an "Ego Death" happens you unconsciously dis·identify with your mind and body, and it's sort of like a starting point for some in dis-identification.

 

[Korey]

Also have you experienced an "Ego Death" on mushrooms?

wat

 

[Dream2Awaken]

Also have you experienced an "Ego Death" on mushrooms?

wat

Could be a moment where one fully believes that they are dead, thus allowing themselves to open up to the Tao. Often happens through psychedelic drugs.

For example I had a moment on DMT where I believed I had not been breathing the whole time because I could not feel the breathing. So in my mind I believed I was dead until I woke up.

Edited to add "could be."

 

[Korey]

I know.... I am just a little perplexed at why a member of two years is asking other members on a forum dedicated to psychedelic drugs if he has experienced ego death from mushrooms.... You see where I'm coming from, brohemuth?

IME, ego death is not the belief one is dead. It's the feeling of being aware with no or an extremely deflated ego, the feeling of existing everywhere and everything that exists being expressed to you at your core and in front of your eyes. Its thinking of other before self, not simply mundane as "oh I inhaled some drugs I don't know if I'm breathing or not, guess I'm dead"

 

[Dream2Awaken]

I know.... I am just a little perplexed at why a member of two years is asking other members on a forum dedicated to psychedelic drugs if he has experienced ego death from mushrooms.... You see where I'm coming from, brohemuth?

Well just because someone has experienced psychedelic drugs does not mean they have experienced an "Ego Death". I have friends who have done mushrooms quite a few times and have never experienced it. So Instead of assuming and having the possibility of being incorrect, I asked.

I loosely define that as "Ego Death" because in my example a moment like that automatically and swiftly does in part what you have described. Afterwards the understanding comes and you depart from your ego. If at some point your ego is gone then whatever point your ego began to be gone is the same. If you are shot and crawl your way to a hospital and die there. Then your death was not at the hospital, but at the place where you were shot. In Believing who you thought you were to be no more, and at the same time experiencing some sort of existence. It opens you up to understanding those sort of things. It was not simply "Oh I guess I'm dead" I put it simply cause I did not feel a need to go into detail because that is not what the topic is about, and if you had experienced a moment similar to mine you would have understood exactly what I had meant. Plus if one does not believe in anything spiritual (which I did not before this) and they see themselves as nothing more then their body. Then there ego is revolved around their body, and if they believe their body to be no more then so is their ego. It was not just believing myself to be dead, but accepting it and then beginning to question what existence is. The questioning later leading me down a similar path to what you are speaking of.

 

[Korey]

Sure it is, that's why I said IME.

 

[universecannon]

carline ^__^

 

[Global]

Who here has observed The Voice?

For those who have, what is your input on the matter? Any and all input is valid input so please share freely.

For those who need to ask, "what voice?" Then might as well not even ask. Either you know exactly what I'm asking/talking about, or you don't. It is near impossible, if not impossible, to adequately describe to someone who doesn't already know.

I hear The Voice on DMT. It's majestic, grand, deep and bellowing: echoing and feedingback, cascading down through itself. It's the voice that sounds like the world is coming to an end. It uses grammatically correct and context correct (not nonsensical gibberish) English.