Help a first timer please - Options for smoking

[crobby]

Hey everyone. I just completed my first extraction from MHRB and got 330mg from 30g total. I've no idea if that's a good yield.

First off, there are a lot of white crystals, but also some yellow colouring on some of it, too. It was all white in the dish, and only started to appear yellow once scraping up into piles. Any advice from people on whether this looks good/safe to go as is, or does it require some further cleaning?

Secondly, I'd massively appreciate some help on how exactly I go about smoking / vapourising this, and specifically, what can I buy off the shelf (in the UK) to get me going? Hopefully as just a "get it and go" item rather than assembling something.

I see a lot of talk about GVG, but can't seem to get that from a UK retailer. Also see some threads about custom builds - But other than smoking the odd joint in the past, I've never used any other substances or equipment, so a lot of the technical info I read goes over my head.

DMT isn't something I *plan* on doing more after this - I'm just here for the first hand experience myself. So durability / re-use of any item is not high on my agenda.

Any suggestions appreciated. And apologies if this has been asked many times, but without knowing all the correct terminologies, I'm struggling to know what to search for on the forum.

 

[TransistorBass]

Nice going on your first extraction.

For first time experiences I’d say get an oil burner pipe like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/158222937385 the smoking bit pulls out and it’s a bigger hole in it than some of the other glass pipes you can buy.

Go for a cold start.
Add your weighed amount of DMT to the pipe bowl, 5mg is a good taster starting place. That’s 0.005 grams.
Using a Jet lighter heat from a distance, do not let the flame touch the bowl.
When you see a wisp of white smoke put the pipe in your mouth, not on the lips! (Obviously not the hot end!)
Keep heating gently and take a long slow breath and hold for a count of 10.
If you have a bit of breath left after that inhale, inhale a bit more air to really shove all that DMT down into your lungs.

And be prepared, the speed of change is the biggest shock, it was like falling off a cliff in a dream when sleeping in a moving car, you are wrenched awake…. Or in the case of DMT, ripped away to a new reality.

Be Open. Trust. Allow the unfolding.

 

[TransistorBass]

Oh, be sure you have somewhere to safely place the hot glass pipe after the hit.
You’ll want a glass of water to hand too.

Re-heat the pipe and use up what’s left.

 

[crobby]

@TransistorBass what should I expect in terms of harshness using a glass pipe? Does this pipe differ much from a "crack" pipe? I ask because I've seen some negative comments about glass bowl pipes!

Does it really come down to technique and making sure you don't burn / combust the spice? And if you get it right, then it's not so bad?

My wife will be on hand to take whatever Im using away from me. And the glass of water - for a harsh dry throat I'm guessing?

Appreciate the tips!

 

[TransistorBass]

I'm suggesting this for a first experience as it worked for me about a year ago when I first tried DMT.

If you heat and don't burn you'll get a weird numb-like mouth, and lips if you put the pipe to your lips rather than thru your lips. It does taste pretty weird at first.

Myself, I make up Vape juice and vape via a Modbox and Tank. But you don't want to spend much money so I wouldn't suggest going the whole hog and spending a load on a Vape Device.

Though if you happen to want to go the electric route there are folks on here that swear by the Yocan Orbit Yocan Orbit 2.0 - Yocan Official which is a pretty cheap concentrates vape.

When you've tried your first small hit and gained a bit of experience, try hitting the pipe twice with what you've put in it, holding for 10 second each time.

I tend to Take a hit, grab a swig of water while holding my breath and by the time you've put the glass down things should be rapidly changing. Expect swirls, spirals and being pulled or pushed forwards like being sat on top of a rocket. You'll probably land in a fractal space, and in my case on my second attempt I was being welcomed by a feminine being in a place of peace and gratitude. The afterglow is also worth the initial shock.

Plenty of folks here will answer your questions I'm sure, and offer other ways of doing things.

 

[bezevo]

Flame should never touch the product or pipe .your drawing the heat over it from severl inchs away . s

The term smoking implys burning ......you want to avoid burning at all costs this just ruins WASTES the DMT and tasts nasty , you want to try to get it to vaporize even if your using like a crack pipe .
really high does also a waste you just black out

Also color or texture does not matter due to the polymorfic nature of nnDMT .
Meaning it can apear in miny forms various shades of white , yellow orange , it can be powder small crystals goo oily and it is all 97% or more pure no matter how it looks .

Lots urban legend infor that goo or oil is fat or not as pure ............that's right white dosnot mean it is more pure .

It can even be red goo , there used to be people speculating red goo was some sorta mystery magical substance they called JUNGLE Spice ..........nope its just nnDMT .

 

[iownme]

i like the puffco pivot vape pen which is a very easy to use product and affordable.
i recommend buying the glass water bowl which attaches to it as it vastly reduces the taste. the taste is not pleasant but its not terrible either, as others have suggested have a glass of water at hand.

i also suggest starting at what for some is a very low dose of 5mg and then each time you use it go up by 5mg until you really fly, for me its 25mg.

 

[crobby]

@iownme do you have a link to that? I see a few versions looking at amazon. Can't seem to see a water bowl either. How does that pen work? Do you just load the crystals inside and set a temp on the pen?

With the glass pipe method, @bezevo and @TransistorBass - would putting a little tobacco in with it help taste wise, or in any other way? Or will it hinder vaporisation?

 

[bezevo]

Look up the sandwich method ,,
don't use pot or tobbaco for this ,
use mullen very cheap ...or peppermint .

All you need is a little cheap briar wood pipe or a mini corn cob there like a dollar or two .

Just pack some mint or mullen in the bowl ,then add your MEASURED dmt or a pinch of changa . on top the mullen .

Then put more mullen or mint on top ,Then with a cheapo torch lighter held a few inchs away draw the heat not flame across the bowl ,the dmt or changa will vaporize.

Flame should never touch the product or even the pipe .

You might practice a few times with out the dmt .

I bought a big bag of mullen for $2 Mini corncob pipe for $1

no fancy expensive device need ......................... but those can be really cool also ..

 

[TransistorBass]

With the glass pipe method, @bezevo and @TransistorBass - would putting a little tobacco in with it help taste wise, or in any other way? Or will it hinder vaporisation?

Only DMT in the glass pipe. We want a clean vaporization.

 

[crobby]

Right, cheers for the help guys. Will give the glass pipe a go first to see if I can get that.

One more thing I want to ask. After extraction (freeze percip), I left my container open and overturned to drain/evap any remaining naphtha for around 15 mins only. I understand that this stuff can deteriorate if not stored in the fridge/freezer, so I think i was overly keen to get it back there. Now im thinking I should've left it in the open air for longer to ensure no remaining solvent.

So I'm going to take it back out-of the freezer and let more evap happen to make sure its clean, so my question here is how long can I leave this out in the air / away from cold storage before it starts to have a detrimental effect?

 

[TransistorBass]

There's no need to worry, make sure your Spice is fully evaporated.
I tend to leave it a day or 2 longer after I think its fully dry and no longer smells like solvent before sealing it up in a small Jar and Popping it in the fridge. Sealed and Stored in a cool dry place is all you need.

Its not going to degrade that fast.

 

[iownme]

the pen is here and the water bowl is here.
the pen has 4 (i think) temperatures.
i use the lowest setting.
i once tried a higher setting and it took me higher lol.
to use the pen you simply load the dmt in the chamber and power it on, 5 seconds or so later it will buzz to let you know its ready.
the water bowl is a game changer for removing most of the taste.

 

[TransistorBass]

the pen is here and the water bowl is here.

I have a question, does the water bubbler condense / remove some of the Vapor, is DMT contained in the used water?

 

[crobby]

I have one last question for people also.

My wife is going to be sitting me, but she also has zero experience with anything like this, so:
What's the best advice we can give to her?

 

[iownme]

does the water bubbler condense / remove some of the Vapor, is DMT contained in the used water?

i really dont know but i see puffco has released another water piece called the side car

 

[TransistorBass]

I have one last question for people also.

My wife is going to be sitting me, but she also has zero experience with anything like this, so:
What's the best advice we can give to her?

Its pretty simple, if she takes the hot pipe away from you thats about all. She is moral support and knowing that she is there for you, she can sit quietly and not do a thing, you'll know when you've settled back into reality.
Great that she is going to be there with you, on my second time my wife sat outside the room and kept the cats busy so they wouldn't scratch the door or anything.

 

[iownme]

I have one last question for people also.

My wife is going to be sitting me, but she also has zero experience with anything like this, so:
What's the best advice we can give

im not experienced with sitters as i fly alone but imagine as you (are likely) taking small doses for the first few flights, there will not be much for her to see or do. and the same goes for you, while its possible you will fly on 5-20mg its also possible that almost nothing will happen other than feeling a bit "weird"
once you do fly, i imagine being interrupted by someone engaging with you would not be good, id suggest she just sit across the room keeping quiet, you may moan or even cry which is totally normal, you will likely be muttering "oh my god...oh my god...no waaaay ....no waaaaaaaaay!"

 

[iownme]

i started at 5mg trip 1... no effect
10mg trip 2.... no effect
15mg trip 3.... some ear buzzing and slight visual changes
20mg i entered the dmt realm lightly
25mg i am fully immersed, sometimes aware of my body and place in space and sometimes not.
if you decide to do all these steps on day 1 then you should leave an hour or so between each launch (so i have been told)

 

[crobby]

Cheers guys, all round good info to know