hiking with spice

[mrlucky64]

Hey peeps, how goes it?
Swim is going on a 3 day hiking trip and thinking about trying to bring some spice along. Swim knows it will be hot and the spice will most certainly melt. Swims question is, assuming the spice will melt, what should swim melt it into while hiking? Swim is thinking, maybe melt it into some screens + a choreboy + pipe. Was also thinking about letting it melt into mullin or some other herb, would this work like changa? Swim doesn't have access to any cool ceramic flavor discs right now. Anyways thanx in advance for the help, this is great forum!!! Sorry if this question has already been asked. Swim

 

[Adjhart]

For that I would just make some enhanced leaf and bring a small bubbler or a good ripping pipe.

Imagine loading some spice outside and a gust of wind comes along and ruins your day. Now stop imagining that, it's terrible.

This can happen with your enhanced leaf/herb also, but it will be much easier to manage overall.

 

[--Shadow]

Hey peeps, how goes it?
Swim is going on a 3 day hiking trip and thinking about trying to bring some spice along. Swim knows it will be hot and the spice will most certainly melt. Swims question is, assuming the spice will melt, what should swim melt it into while hiking? Swim is thinking, maybe melt it into some screens + a choreboy + pipe. Was also thinking about letting it melt into mullin or some other herb, would this work like changa? Swim doesn't have access to any cool ceramic flavor discs right now. Anyways thanx in advance for the help, this is great forum!!! Sorry if this question has already been asked. Swim

^ Yeah I agree, you're much better dissolving your DMT in acetone or IPA and enhancing some herbs. It will make the job of dosing and loading up MUCH much easier, especially when out on the run and not in the comforts of your usual surroundings

 

[mzrd]

the above comments, yes. absolutely. also,

A. It won't work like changa unless you've got an maoi in there somewhere, that's what makes it CHANGA vs. enhanced leaf.

B. you don't even need the solvents to enhance if you have a hefty shotglass... simply drop your spice in the glass, then boil some water in a shallow pan, turn off the heat, wait for most of the steam to die down, then place the glass in the pan, carefully. Spice melts, you drop in herbs until puddle is full, then pull the glass out of the pan, carefully set somewhere to cool for an hour (it doesn't take that long, but being sure is nice :roll: ). carefully collect the herbs and smoalk them at your leisure... there will be a bit of residue in the glass, to be sure, this can be put back into post boil pan again to melt back down, then scraped up with your favorite smoking herb to clean up.

C. Mullein is GREAT for soaking up LOTS of liquid, so be careful if that's the herb you use, as it will be VERY saturated! (and also, Mullein, if you didn't already know, is fantastic for the lungs, and so is a very nice addition to any spice-based smoalking blend.)

 

[mrlucky64]

hmmm.....sounds interesting....thanx :d :d ...have never made enhanced leaf...sounds like its not that difficult but a new endeavor for swim....do have ipa lying around actually... a side question just appeared, can you breakthrough easily on enhanced leaf???? also a funny anecdote, every time swim smokes a small amount of spice my pc turns int a mac, not kidding....:shock: :shock:

 

[--Shadow]

B. you don't even need the solvents to enhance if you have a hefty shotglass... simply drop your spice in the glass, then boil some water in a shallow pan, turn off the heat, wait for most of the steam to die down, then place the glass in the pan, carefully. Spice melts, you drop in herbs until puddle is full, then pull the glass out of the pan, carefully set somewhere to cool for an hour (it doesn't take that long, but being sure is nice :roll: ). carefully collect the herbs and smoalk them at your leisure... there will be a bit of residue in the glass, to be sure, this can be put back into post boil pan again to melt back down, then scraped up with your favorite smoking herb to clean up.

The main difference with this ^ method, is that the DMT is staying in a freebase form, and not being converted to a salt (by binding to the acids in acetone or IPA).

When you convert to a salt, I believe it has a higher melting point, so you may not lose or oxidize as easily as you do with freebase when using a bong (as apposed to a vaporizer)

 

[Felnik]

Ideally I would suggest making changa with caapi leaf
and mullein . If you don't have caapi then just make it with some
mullein. I usually keep the caapi separate and mix it into spice-mullein
changa as I go . Sometimes it's an advantage to keep them separate
so you can get plenty tweeked on caapi by itself first before adding spice
to the mix . But either way it's good .

 

[Yoho]

can you breakthrough easily on enhanced leaf????

Even easier than with pure freebase IMO.

The main difference with this ^ method, is that the DMT is staying in a freebase form, and not being converted to a salt (by binding to the acids in acetone or IPA).

When you convert to a salt, I believe it has a higher melting point, so you may not lose or oxidize as easily as you do with freebase when using a bong (as apposed to a vaporizer)

:?: There aren't acids in acetone or IPA unless you deliberately add some, no? And AFAIK DMT salts are not suitable for smoking.

 

[--Shadow]

I'm no chemist, so please anyone correct me if i'm wrong (I certainly don't want to be wrong a moment longer than I need to be)

From what I understand, when dissolving DMT in Acetone/IPA, the DMT bonds with the acetic acid to become DMT-acetate (which is a salt) DMT acetate vs. DMT freebase question

 

[sarek]

No, acetone and acetic acid are not the same. Dmt freebase dissolved in acetone remains freebase, same goes for ipa.

 

[--Shadow]

Thank you for the clarification, sarek