How do I report a sketchy ayahuasca retreat

[Alma dos mortos]

Just wanted to get the process started, so victims can come out with their stories. They church not private but very public. The reason for them working in the shadows means their operation is illegal. Distribution of a Schedule I substance is enough for starting an investigation. Proper churches and church members don't need to hide from the law, they are under the protection of the constitution. This entity however is not. And if victims feel unsafe with providing personal details, I recommend using a private email provider and the Tor Browser/Tails. Giving the authorities information where to look might save people's life. Suicidal thoughts are not funny. At all.

 

[The Traveler]

I have removed all aggressive or even threatening posts.

The DMT-Nexus is not a court, we do not have solid evidence, and will not let our platform be used to attack others.

As has been stated before: if you think this is really a serious thread that needs to be prosecuted then contact your local law enforcement and give them your findings. They have the means to actually check for the facts, unlike us were we only have hearsay and are probably missing out on a lot of important details.

If this aggressive postings continues I will remove this topic.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

To the OP, just a thought but it might be a better approach to contact the media instead of law enforcement. If there is a problem it might reach more eyes and hearts that way than through the slow process of law & order. Sunlight is often the best disinfectant.

 

[Varallo]

Here is a real life example of a sketchy ayahuasca retreat that kept threatening a Spiritual Master with violence, posting he was a peadophile, and defaming his police father for sexual offences against boys. He has complete legal immunity and they couldnt touch him. It is called Aluna Healing Center and they do ayahuasca in Potter Valley in California. United States.

They kept threatening to report a Spiritual Master for doing ayahuasca and Drug Enforcement Authority got involved

If you get the authorities involved then your a witness and they cant sue you. Nobody could sue this guy and ICEERS are on the side of the bad guys. All they will do is cover up for bad behaviour and give legal backing to try and have people silenced using threats of violence or smear campaigns.

Santo Daime Church tried to bring him down and it destroyed the Church in terms of legalization, apparently someone did a spell of black magic on his astral body and a curse of paranormal fires gutted a bunch of ayahuasca retreats on top of the legal carnage.

They spent years harassing, persecuting and defaming him as a mentally ill peadophile, it destroyed the Church and the Drug Enforcement Authority got involved. They do SWAT raids but they watch and wait. Then when you least expect they take your door off at 5am, cuff you up, haul you before Court and then your in jail. The moral of the story. Dont make a war with someone from a police family who has special powers in the astral worlds as a result of ayahuasca.

Santo Daime attorneys couldn't touch the guy and they had to take back everything they posted about him, and Aluna Healing Center are in the eyes of DEA.
How to deal with it. Give them a chance to clean up their act, if they carry on, just get law enforcement involved and it stops it.

So there are people throwing mud and suddenly they are defeated by an ayahuasca Voldemort?
On a more serious note, I don’t think that this whole conspiracy with spiritual masters with powers in the astral world has any basis in reality. This is a fairy tale made up by people who have ill intent or who are ill themselves, in both cases I think it’s better to practice critical thinking and take out the nonsense and stick to the facts.

 

[Ayahausca Psychonaut]

What are the facts ?

 

[The Traveler]

What are the facts ?

That we, as the DMT-Nexus, cannot verify if those stories are fiction or not. And thus it is worthless to report these things on our platform.

It's up to law enforcement to investigate these practices, they have the legal means to investigate and, if needed, to prosecute.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[stegeria]

There are multiple cult like vibes attached to both large and intimate group ceremonies.The ones that invite over 40 people are catastrophic failures for both those attending, and the facilities toilets if youre not outdoors .Unfortunately it's Neo shamanism and Aya and yage have fallen into the greediest of hands.
I once met a few sheisty people claiming to be Shamans in California The ring leader was supposedly from the amazon and his wife was a Money hungry German Who would aggressively come to collect and count the funds before the ceremony. Terrible people ,the whole group was like an orgy and a soap opera,people would attend to meet women and the most vulnerable would be susceptible to more trauma and confusion added to what they intended on working on initially .
Theyve taken traditional medicine and turned it into a circus of a ceremony who has the most expensive items on their altar selling homemade goods for ridiculous prices,who can play the most instruments at the same time and recruiting people to help serve medicine who are more disturbed than they are .DANGEROUS amounts of kambo administered where I witnessed seizures and no one equipped to medically treat them.This is very disturbing to some people deep into a cup of medicine.And yes untreated PTSD and schizophrenia can be exacerbated by a mixture of other medicines .These people are also serving Bufo and what theyre MARKETING as 7 minutes with God .One person, also through the ceremonies promotes his dj career and uses the large gatherings as a platform like some demented talent show.
I am pro Aya in private one on one sittings I've experienced beautiful ceremonies and very traumatic ones where I was left psychologically open around a bunch of strangers not qualified to handle anything of the sort .
Anything with tribe family circle or gathering attached to it with astronomically high price tags to sit in someones yurt or yard hosted by a couple of hacks you should steer clear of .. Once I discovered they started rumors about people interfering with their money they only offered me a 3000 dollar ceremony to go to the Amazon..Couldnt imagine giving them another dollar especially to travel to an unknown area of the jungle ..There are also several men in NYC whom I hope have since been arrested or brought to light who will and have sexually assaulted women under the influence of kambo and physically abuse their male attendees offering nude spiritual massages ..read that again .I've witnessed someone collapse from heat exhaustion In a sweat lodge with 2 rows on top of each other who stated" if theyre meant to die then theyre meant to die",from someone who calls himself singh.I also wonder why a woman is still operating and holding ceremonies after grooming young men and after killing an asthmatic girl with a super dose of rapé in Riverside. I'm not afraid to report anyone for the sake of people's lives please find the resources and I will take the next step

 

[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

So there are people throwing mud and suddenly they are defeated by an ayahuasca Voldemort?
On a more serious note, I don’t think that this whole conspiracy with spiritual masters with powers in the astral world has any basis in reality. This is a fairy tale made up by people who have ill intent or who are ill themselves, in both cases I think it’s better to practice critical thinking and take out the nonsense and stick to the facts.

@Varallo You do not know the actual facts of what happened and have come to a false assessment, I know the facts as it involves me. The facts are well made out, the events mentioned by poster "badayahuascaretreats" happened and Aluna's ill intent is also legally made out, as well as the fact they are not even legal.

 

[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

What are the facts ?

The facts are Aluna, an ayahuasca and MDMA retreat in Potter Valley California named Aluna Healing Center persists in sending harassment and threats by proxy, and legal threats (without merit) to take comments off Complaints Board when the comments are completely justified (and privileged), and when Aluna is NOT even legal.

They have been doing it for several years, lying about it, finding others to defame me as mentally ill and deranged, and several ex-clients of Aluna came forward with serious ethical concerns about these people (confidentiality is maintained as to the specifics).

There is a lot more that could be said, but here may not be the place to expand on the story with large amounts of write-up, having said that just search for Aluna Healing Center complaints, and come to your own conclusions.

 

[Varallo]

Hi there and welcome, I get the feeling that you made an account specifically to share your ideas on this retreat, I hope that since you’re here you can have a look around and maybe see what this place is all about.

@Varallo You do not know the actual facts of what happened and have come to a false assessment, I know the facts as it involves me. The facts are well made out, the events mentioned by poster "badayahuascaretreats" happened and Aluna's ill intent is also legally made out, as well as the fact they are not even legal.

Did you in fact read the post I replied to, I mean, I’m just saying to take out the fiction and stick to the facts. Not much else..,

The facts are Aluna, an ayahuasca and MDMA retreat in Potter Valley California named Aluna Healing Center persists in sending harassment and threats by proxy, and legal threats (without merit) to take comments off Complaints Board when the comments are completely justified (and privileged), and when Aluna is NOT even legal.

They have been doing it for several years, lying about it, finding others to defame me as mentally ill and deranged, and several ex-clients of Aluna came forward with serious ethical concerns about these people (confidentiality is maintained as to the specifics).

There is a lot more that could be said, but here may not be the place to expand on the story with large amounts of write-up, having said that just search for Aluna Healing Center complaints, and come to your own conclusions.

If you really believe that a crime has been committed I think you have a duty to act, posting about it here is not really effective and has been done already. The way I see it you have three options, one is leaving it and focus on other things in life, option two is to try and have a conversation with the people involved and see if you can reason with them and find a solution, the final one is pursuing legal action.

Whatever you decide I hope that you find the courage.

All the best.

 

[CommonConduit]

For what it's worth, I'd advise contacting Psymposia, they're a psychedelics watchdog organization.

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[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

Hi there and welcome, I get the feeling that you made an account specifically to share your ideas on this retreat, I hope that since you’re here you can have a look around and maybe see what this place is all about.

Did you in fact read the post I replied to, I mean, I’m just saying to take out the fiction and stick to the facts. Not much else..,


If you really believe that a crime has been committed I think you have a duty to act, posting about it here is not really effective and has been done already. The way I see it you have three options, one is leaving it and focus on other things in life, option two is to try and have a conversation with the people involved and see if you can reason with them and find a solution, the final one is pursuing legal action.

Whatever you decide I hope that you find the courage.

All the best.

The only reason I am on this thread is a couple of days back I was shown by an ex-attendee of Aluna the comments of yours June 5th 2024 making comment, to quote

"On a more serious note, I don’t think that this whole conspiracy with spiritual masters with powers in the astral world has any basis in reality. This is a fairy tale made up by people who have ill intent or who are ill themselves, in both cases I think it’s better to practice critical thinking and take out the nonsense and stick to the facts."

On that point I had the right to show up here, make an account and clarify what the facts actually are/were in relation to comments that concern me, that is all I am doing here. The background is here and the people involved had to take back (and take off) defamation I was mentally ill and the Church lost the legal dispute.

Santo Daime Controversy - Spiritual Master Free Spirit

Santo Daime Controversy Articles, Blog Reposts and Legal Perspectives. Santo Daime Fires Controversy. Spiritual Master Free Spirit

santo-daime-church-controversy.blogspot.com

Kind Regards

 

[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

From experience, if people have problems with a "sketchy ayahuasca retreat", the options are first try and sort it out informally, if that fails, and the abuse continues, go to legal action, and if they use judgment proof people to post defamation, harassment and threats, then trash their reputation on the internet using the legal defences of the jurisdiction(s), as a last resort get the authorities involved and turn their names over to law enforcement, and put them out of business. If an ayahuasca retreat isn't legal you can put them out of business with legal impunity and revenge is witness intimidation, then you are looking at many years behind bars.

Aluna lost their Instagram with 2,5K followers on board, many thousands in bookings, their personal Facebook profiles, got reported to law enforcement for supplying MDMA and ayahuasca without exemptions, and they are on their last legs and are a "sitting duck" for a Drug Enforcement Authority SWAT team raid in ceremony.

Now if people are going to operate an ayahuasca retreat and post I will be defamed for rape and reported for dealing drugs when I am not, and threatened with violence, murder, hospital visits and having my name put on porn sites, etc then I will turn your names over to law enforcement and they asked for it.

Karma will teach Aluna (and Santo Daime) a lesson.
One person apologized, as you can see above, but far too little, too late.

 

[Nydex]

I'm sorry to interject here, but I need to remind you that in this day and age, a random screenshot of a supposed email posted on the internet has about as much credibility to it as just saying "trust me bro". I don't mean this in an accusatory way at all. What I mean is if you really feel like this merits involving the authorities, then involve them. They have the means to carry out a proper investigation.

The DMT-Nexus cannot be part of this in any meaningful or productive way.

Best of luck.

 

[Transform]

The only reason I am on this thread is a couple of days back I was shown by an ex-attendee of Aluna the comments of yours June 5th 2024 making comment, to quote

"On a more serious note, I don’t think that this whole conspiracy with spiritual masters with powers in the astral world has any basis in reality. This is a fairy tale made up by people who have ill intent or who are ill themselves, in both cases I think it’s better to practice critical thinking and take out the nonsense and stick to the facts."

On that point I had the right to show up here, make an account and clarify what the facts actually are/were in relation to comments that concern me, that is all I am doing here. The background is here and the people involved had to take back (and take off) defamation I was mentally ill and the Church lost the legal dispute.

Santo Daime Controversy - Spiritual Master Free Spirit

Santo Daime Controversy Articles, Blog Reposts and Legal Perspectives. Santo Daime Fires Controversy. Spiritual Master Free Spirit

santo-daime-church-controversy.blogspot.com

Kind Regards

From experience, if people have problems with a "sketchy ayahuasca retreat", the options are first try and sort it out informally, if that fails, and the abuse continues, go to legal action, and if they use judgment proof people to post defamation., harassment and threats, then trash their reputation on the internet using the legal defences of the jurisdiction(s), as a last resort get the authorities involved and turn their names over to law enforcement, and put them out of business. Aluna lost their Instagram with 2,5K followers on board, many thousands in bookings, their personal Facebook profiles, got reported to law enforcement for supplying MDMA and ayahuasca without exemptions, and they are on their last legs. One person apologized, as you can see above, but far too little, too late.

Please pay attention: the Nexus is not the place where you get to grind your personal axe. Please scroll back up and verify the following posts, with consideration of how you might report on such matters with a more neutral tone.

I have removed all aggressive or even threatening posts.

The DMT-Nexus is not a court, we do not have solid evidence, and will not let our platform be used to attack others.

As has been stated before: if you think this is really a serious thread that needs to be prosecuted then contact your local law enforcement and give them your findings. They have the means to actually check for the facts, unlike us were we only have hearsay and are probably missing out on a lot of important details.

If this aggressive postings continues I will remove this topic.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

What are the facts ?

That we, as the DMT-Nexus, cannot verify if those stories are fiction or not. And thus it is worthless to report these things on our platform.

It's up to law enforcement to investigate these practices, they have the legal means to investigate and, if needed, to prosecute.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

I think @The Traveler might also say, "We don't need the drama". I get that you may well have had a legitimate grievance, along with a difficult time resolving it. However, that does not give you any special "right" to use the Nexus as though it was twitter ('x'), instagram, reddit, or any of the other - to a greater or lesser degree, dysfunctional - mass social media sites. Sorry.

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[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

Please pay attention: the Nexus is not the place where you get to grind your personal axe. Please scroll back up and verify the following posts, with consideration of how you might report on such matters with a more neutral tone.



I think @The Traveler might also say, "We don't need the drama". I get that you may well have had a legitimate grievance, along with a difficult time resolving it. However, that does not give you any special "right" to use the Nexus as though it was twitter ('x'), instagram, reddit, or any of the other - to a greater or lesser degree, dysfunctional - mass social media sites. Sorry.

The illusion of free speech

The illusion of free speech At times I see people on the forum telling me they want 'free speech'. I see arguments that without this free speech "Spontaneous creativity and inspiration" will be lost. however, what they try to say with this 'free speech' talk is that they want their form of...

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If people are inferring I am mentally ill on this thread, as someone was, I have the legal right to come in and set the record straight.

 

[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

I'm sorry to interject here, but I need to remind you that in this day and age, a random screenshot of a supposed email posted on the internet has about as much credibility to it as just saying "trust me bro". I don't mean this in an accusatory way at all. What I mean is if you really feel like this merits involving the authorities, then involve them. They have the means to carry out a proper investigation.

The DMT-Nexus cannot be part of this in any meaningful or productive way.

Best of luck.

It's the same Aluna email as on their website, the admission speaks for itself.

 

[Transform]

If people are inferring I am mentally ill on this thread, as someone was, I have the legal right to come in and set the record straight.

People can infer whatever they like. Implying an untrue observation would be another matter. This may seem pedantic, but you've come here claiming legal rights, so it would be to your advantage to get your terminology right.

It's the same Aluna email as on their website, the admission speaks for itself.

That doesn't make @Nydex's observation any less valid.

The illusion of free speech

The illusion of free speech At times I see people on the forum telling me they want 'free speech'. I see arguments that without this free speech "Spontaneous creativity and inspiration" will be lost. however, what they try to say with this 'free speech' talk is that they want their form of...

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[SpiritualMasterFreeSpirit]

People can infer whatever they like. Implying an untrue observation would be another matter. This may seem pedantic, but you've come here claiming legal rights, so it would be to your advantage to get your terminology right.

That doesn't make @Nydex's observation any less valid.

The illusion of free speech

The illusion of free speech At times I see people on the forum telling me they want 'free speech'. I see arguments that without this free speech "Spontaneous creativity and inspiration" will be lost. however, what they try to say with this 'free speech' talk is that they want their form of...

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"People can infer whatever they like".

If it leads to attacks on my reputation and credibility, unfortunately not. Freedom of speech and expression is very explicit in its legal ambit and its limitations, as Aluna have painfully discovered for themselves, albeit late in the day, and people have a legal right to vindicate themselves, as I have done.

All you are implying is "because we are into DMT and ayahuasca" (ie things that are not even legal in many places) we can say and post what we like in the nexus, but I cannot in response. Clearly, your logic is flawed, prejudicially-biased and your arguments ill-founded.

 

[MAGMA17]

If there is a post with unverifiable slander, with equally unverifiable defense responses and furthermore in the forum the drama is not needed, the question is: why is the topic itself open? it should just be eliminated or closed at least.