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How We Smoked DMT – Our Experience & Recommendations

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Stargazer1212

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�� Important Disclaimer
This write-up is for educational purposes only. DMT is illegal in many countries, including the U.S. We do not encourage or condone illegal activity. If you choose to use DMT, be aware of the legal risks in your jurisdiction and approach it with caution, respect, and preparation.

How We Smoked DMT – Our Experience & Recommendations

�� Background
Before our ceremony, we did a lot of research online on the best methods for vaporizing DMT. Many experienced users recommend the Glass Vapor Genie (GVG) as the gold standard due to its efficiency and smoothness. Unfortunately, when we tried to order one, it was on backorder and never arrived in time for our ceremony. The company’s customer service was very disappointing calls went straight to voicemail, and emails went unanswered.
With GVG out of the picture, we researched alternatives and found two options often mentioned online:
1. Dynavap M7 (manual vaporizer)
2. Puffco Peak / Pivot (electronic vaporizer)
We also purchased a microscale for precise dosing and a torch lighter for the Dynavap since it is manually heated.

�� Our Experience with Each Device
❌ Dynavap M7 – Terrible for DMT
 Despite multiple attempts, we could only get a few small, inconsistent hits.
 Dynavap is really designed for herbs and weed, not DMT.
 The heat control was poor, leading to either burning or wasting the material.
 Verdict: We do NOT recommend Dynavap for DMT at all.

✅ Puffco Pivot – Much Better
 Puffco Pivot (similar to Puffco Peak) worked far more consistently.
 The challenge: it has 4 heat settings (blue, green, red, white), and we didn’t
know which one worked best.
Here’s what we found:

Heat Setting Experience

White (max) Way too hot – burned lips and throat, very harsh. Avoid. Red Produces a strong hit and allowed for a breakthrough, but still harsh on the throat.

Green Smoother than red, good potency, moderate harshness.

Blue (lowest) Smoothest, easiest to inhale and hold. Allowed for deeper, longer breaths and a calmer overall experience. Surprisingly, blue still produced breakthrough-level effects because we could breathe better and hold the vapor in longer.

�� Our Recommendation
1. Start with Blue: It’s the smoothest and easiest to manage. Take a few good hits, inhale deeply, and hold. Blue is less harsh, making it easier to get a full dose.
2. If you want to experiment: Try Green next—it’s slightly more intense but still manageable.
3. Red only if you’re comfortable: It can lead to more intense breakthroughs but is harsher. We do not recommend White—it’s unnecessarily hot and unpleasant.

�� Final Tips
 Weigh every dose with a microscale for consistency (Many people online recommend around 30–40mg for a “breakthrough” hit)
 Have a sitter or trusted friend present—especially if it’s your first time.
 Focus on breathing: The ability to inhale fully and hold your breath matters more than just cranking up the heat.
 Avoid Dynavap entirely—it’s frustrating and wastes material.

This was our experience—hopefully, it helps others who are curious about how these devices compare. If you can get a Glass Vapor Genie, it’s still considered the best option, but if not, Puffco Pivot on Blue or Green is a great alternative for a smooth, reliable experience.
 
Is this generated based on an actual experience, or just generated?

Anyways, assuming the first, those "harsh" hits mean that you're burning spice. It's actually not surprising that the setting that resulted in the smoothest vapor also lead to breakthrough, as it means no DMT was being burnt.
 
I think we should not recommend 30-40mg for "breakthrough" with electronic vaporisers when 25-30mg is often sufficient and 30-40 can be overwhelming. It would be better to begin experimenting around 10-20mg.
 
Ernestine said:
30-40 can be overwhelming. It would be better to begin experimenting around 10-20mg.
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if this is correct then its very important information for someone like me who has just done his first extraction and is having trouble finding the dose amount, its almost like its a secret lol... i actually was thinking maybe it was in the rules that mention of it is not allowed.
i read the rules and dont rememebr seeing that.
but anyway, i thank you all for the info in this thread.

i tried to buy a VG yesterday but after being asked to verify with photo id online i declined.
i had planned to call them today but after reading these posts i may just go with the recommendation here.

whichever method i use i want it to be somewhat precise and controllable, sounds like vg and puffco both fit these parameters
 
iownme said:
if this is correct then its very important information for someone like me who has just done his first extraction and is having trouble finding the dose amount, its almost like its a secret lol...
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Check Psychonaut Wiki for dosages of different substances if you don't know about it, they tend to be quite correct: DMT

Specifically about DMT, the Nexian DMT Handbook has everything you need to get started: Wiki - The Nexian DMT Handbook
 
For dosing a new drug ALWAYS use the Dr. Shulgin method.

1.) Begin with a ridiculously low dose, what you think might be subthreshold. I'd recommend 2-5 mgs.

2.) Slowly begin to titrate up (I'd recommend 5 mgs up or down for each titration) until you find your sweet spot.

By 10 mgs you should really be noticing effects, possibly like a heavy acid trip with a very real body load. After that depending upon user and device it is hard to predict.

If you are using in the approximate 10 mgs range and getting no effects look to refining and quickening your vaporization technique. Always try to make the first hit the biggest one and hold for as much as 20 seconds. If needed take a QUICK recovery breath then hit again until the dose is gone.


The above is my philosophy.

There are those around here who believe it is low doses that set up fear cycles in people's heads (pre-launch anxiety) and makes it difficult to launch in the future. This school of thought mainly ascribes to the idea that one should not give oneself time to resist or think things over, just go for a breakthrough and go for it fast and hard. If this is your desire and you're working with a novel device I would recommend starting at 20 mgs. After that follow the Dr. Shulgin method mentioned above.

Happy vaping.
 
Pandora said:
For dosing a new drug ALWAYS use the Dr. Shulgin method. 1.) Begin with a ridiculously low dose, what you think might be subthreshold. I'd recommend 2-5 mgs. 2.) Slowly begin to titrate up (I'd recommend 5 mgs up or down for each titration) until you find your sweet spot. By 10 mgs you should really be noticing effects, possibly like a heavy acid trip with a very real body load. After that depending upon user and device it is hard to predict. If you are using in the approximate 10 mgs range and getting no effects look to refining and quickening your vaporization technique. Always try to make the first hit the biggest one and hold for as much as 20 seconds. If needed take a QUICK recovery breath then hit again until the dose is gone. The above is my philosophy. There are those around here who believe it is low doses that set up fear cycles in people's heads (pre-launch anxiety) and makes it difficult to launch in the future. This school of thought mainly ascribes to the idea that one should not give oneself time to resist or think things over, just go for a breakthrough and go for it fast and hard. If this is your desire and you're working with a novel device I would recommend starting at 20 mgs. After that follow the Dr. Shulgin method mentioned above. Happy vaping.
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Pandora said:
For dosing a new drug ALWAYS use the Dr. Shulgin method. 1.) Begin with a ridiculously low dose, what you think might be subthreshold. I'd recommend 2-5 mgs. 2.) Slowly begin to titrate up (I'd recommend 5 mgs up or down for each titration) until you find your sweet spot. By 10 mgs you should really be noticing effects, possibly like a heavy acid trip with a very real body load. After that depending upon user and device it is hard to predict. If you are using in the approximate 10 mgs range and getting no effects look to refining and quickening your vaporization technique. Always try to make the first hit the biggest one and hold for as much as 20 seconds. If needed take a QUICK recovery breath then hit again until the dose is gone. The above is my philosophy. There are those around here who believe it is low doses that set up fear cycles in people's heads (pre-launch anxiety) and makes it difficult to launch in the future. This school of thought mainly ascribes to the idea that one should not give oneself time to resist or think things over, just go for a breakthrough and go for it fast and hard. If this is your desire and you're working with a novel device I would recommend starting at 20 mgs. After that follow the Dr. Shulgin method mentioned above. Happy vaping.
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Pandora said:
There are those around here who believe it is low doses that set up fear cycles in people's heads
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i had heard that and was originally planning a small dose first off, but then started rethinking that plan after finding that out.

currently im actually unsure but was probably going to go with 10mg, maybe split the diff and do 15😉 but now i think i might use your higher suggestion and go with 5, i'll see how brave i am on the day, either 5 or 15, i plan to make no plan!!! 😂 i will report back what i find

at this point im confident this will be a lifestyle change as opposed to a one off trip, but obviously that decision is technically not up to me
 
just to update...
the pivot is awesome and convenient, i highly recommend it.

i started on 10mg and have gone up 5mg at a time, im currently at 35mg, and am now getting intense visuals, i "think" i broke through the other day, it was wild!!.
i'll be doing 40mg this week.

tonite i found some great accessories for the pivot so i will update when i receive them.
i ordered a glass mouthpiece with built in water reservoir and an improved 360 degree heating chamber.

i have stuck to the lowest setting but will start the next level soon.

retails for $130, refurb or ebay around $90
glass mouthpiece $50

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Stargazer1212 said:
�� Important Disclaimer
This write-up is for educational purposes only. DMT is illegal in many countries, including the U.S. We do not encourage or condone illegal activity. If you choose to use DMT, be aware of the legal risks in your jurisdiction and approach it with caution, respect, and preparation.

How We Smoked DMT – Our Experience & Recommendations

�� Background
Before our ceremony, we did a lot of research online on the best methods for vaporizing DMT. Many experienced users recommend the Glass Vapor Genie (GVG) as the gold standard due to its efficiency and smoothness. Unfortunately, when we tried to order one, it was on backorder and never arrived in time for our ceremony. The company’s customer service was very disappointing calls went straight to voicemail, and emails went unanswered.
With GVG out of the picture, we researched alternatives and found two options often mentioned online:
1. Dynavap M7 (manual vaporizer)
2. Puffco Peak / Pivot (electronic vaporizer)
We also purchased a microscale for precise dosing and a torch lighter for the Dynavap since it is manually heated.

�� Our Experience with Each Device
❌ Dynavap M7 – Terrible for DMT
 Despite multiple attempts, we could only get a few small, inconsistent hits.
 Dynavap is really designed for herbs and weed, not DMT.
 The heat control was poor, leading to either burning or wasting the material.
 Verdict: We do NOT recommend Dynavap for DMT at all.

✅ Puffco Pivot – Much Better
 Puffco Pivot (similar to Puffco Peak) worked far more consistently.
 The challenge: it has 4 heat settings (blue, green, red, white), and we didn’t
know which one worked best.
Here’s what we found:

Heat Setting Experience

White (max) Way too hot – burned lips and throat, very harsh. Avoid. Red Produces a strong hit and allowed for a breakthrough, but still harsh on the throat.

Green Smoother than red, good potency, moderate harshness.

Blue (lowest) Smoothest, easiest to inhale and hold. Allowed for deeper, longer breaths and a calmer overall experience. Surprisingly, blue still produced breakthrough-level effects because we could breathe better and hold the vapor in longer.

�� Our Recommendation
1. Start with Blue: It’s the smoothest and easiest to manage. Take a few good hits, inhale deeply, and hold. Blue is less harsh, making it easier to get a full dose.
2. If you want to experiment: Try Green next—it’s slightly more intense but still manageable.
3. Red only if you’re comfortable: It can lead to more intense breakthroughs but is harsher. We do not recommend White—it’s unnecessarily hot and unpleasant.

�� Final Tips
 Weigh every dose with a microscale for consistency (Many people online recommend around 30–40mg for a “breakthrough” hit)
 Have a sitter or trusted friend present—especially if it’s your first time.
 Focus on breathing: The ability to inhale fully and hold your breath matters more than just cranking up the heat.
 Avoid Dynavap entirely—it’s frustrating and wastes material.

This was our experience—hopefully, it helps others who are curious about how these devices compare. If you can get a Glass Vapor Genie, it’s still considered the best option, but if not, Puffco Pivot on Blue or Green is a great alternative for a smooth, reliable experience.
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Stargazer my friend you are far smarter than me. As I sit here, [Readacted by Mod] Honestly that sucks but I'm more disappointed I've been sitting on this stuff for weeks and have more time to go before I can go,.

I came back to the nexus to research if the experts had settled on a post GVG grail. Doesn't look like it. Such a pity the people turned out to be scammers.

Going to buy an vaporizer now. Does anyone else have recommendations? Don't need any accessories for this thing? Filter discs, etc?

Thank you!

J
 
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iownme said:
just to update...
the pivot is awesome and convenient, i highly recommend it.

i started on 10mg and have gone up 5mg at a time, im currently at 35mg, and am now getting intense visuals, i "think" i broke through the other day, it was wild!!.
i'll be doing 40mg this week.

tonite i found some great accessories for the pivot so i will update when i receive them.
i ordered a glass mouthpiece with built in water reservoir and an improved 360 degree heating chamber.

i have stuck to the lowest setting but will start the next level soon.

retails for $130, refurb or ebay around $90
glass mouthpiece $50

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so i have now had a chance to use this and it radically changes the experience for the positive.
first it took away pretty much all the taste, normally i will drink water after inhaling but with this there was no need.
using the puffco, the lips get quite hot and uncomfortable, i generally use a rubber "spacer" to avoid that, the water device removed the need to do that.
good enough and priced well enough to buy another as a spare.
it is much larger, heavier and impressive looking than in pics. stylish.
i found the puffco has two "hidden" heat levels. one super low and one super high, i'll add those here later.
i have purchased a temperature reader so i will be doing experiments with the puffco and another vape to see what actual temperatures are reached in the various settings...stay tuned folks
 
iownme said:
so i have now had a chance to use this and it radically changes the experience for the positive.
first it took away pretty much all the taste, normally i will drink water after inhaling but with this there was no need.
using the puffco, the lips get quite hot and uncomfortable, i generally use a rubber "spacer" to avoid that, the water device removed the need to do that.
good enough and priced well enough to buy another as a spare.
it is much larger, heavier and impressive looking than in pics. stylish.
i found the puffco has two "hidden" heat levels. one super low and one super high, i'll add those here later.
i have purchased a temperature reader so i will be doing experiments with the puffco and another vape to see what actual temperatures are reached in the various settings...stay tuned folks
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Thank you for your service! Is sharing the source forbidden? Have to admit I'm gunshy after diving headlong into vapor genie scamland - with all the kit you're thinking - pivot itself, the glass bowls, etc. Knowing this is the source others have had success would provide some much-needed comfort before transaction 2....
 
jocelyn said:
Thank you for your service! Is sharing the source forbidden? Have to admit I'm gunshy after diving headlong into vapor genie scamland - with all the kit you're thinking - pivot itself, the glass bowls, etc. Knowing this is the source others have had success would provide some much-needed comfort before transaction 2....
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Products like these are generally not very risky to buy online. What usually works best is to look for a webshop that is relatively close to you and appears to have a solid customer base. Take a moment to check whether there are any complaints or negative experiences reported online. Based on that, you can simply purchase the product you are interested in.

There is no need to start sharing specific local webshops here. We avoid that intentionally, as we want to prevent any form of covert advertising.

That said, while a Puffco can work, most members find that a sub-ohm vaporizer with a solution of DMT citrate in propylene glycol works best for them. As far as current experience goes, this has proven to be the most effective solution among all the variations that have come up over the past decades. From what I’ve personally tried, DMT citrate in a sub-ohm vape is by far superior to other methods.

Sub-ohm vapes can be purchased at virtually any vape shop. In my experience, having tried several different ones, the specific model does not matter that much. As long as it is a proper sub-ohm vape with a good tank, you should be fine.
 
Varallo said:
Products like these are generally not very risky to buy online. What usually works best is to look for a webshop that is relatively close to you and appears to have a solid customer base. Take a moment to check whether there are any complaints or negative experiences reported online. Based on that, you can simply purchase the product you are interested in.

There is no need to start sharing specific local webshops here. We avoid that intentionally, as we want to prevent any form of covert advertising.

That said, while a Puffco can work, most members find that a sub-ohm vaporizer with a solution of DMT citrate in propylene glycol works best for them. As far as current experience goes, this has proven to be the most effective solution among all the variations that have come up over the past decades. From what I’ve personally tried, DMT citrate in a sub-ohm vape is by far superior to other methods.

Sub-ohm vapes can be purchased at virtually any vape shop. In my experience, having tried several different ones, the specific model does not matter that much. As long as it is a proper sub-ohm vape with a good tank, you should be fine.
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Thank you, and between yours and yesterday's guidance - got it. Really unfortunate that the official gvg path turned out how it did. As it stands I suspect I have far more research and knowledge to gain before proceeding. IE - I know nothing about vapes, vape tech, etc. In my research between previous post and now I've looked at various opinions, sources and arrived at a potential other solution - in the spirit of slow rolling won't name names, but seems like some of the cheaper than puffco devices with coils on them and a more apropos combustion temp would be fine. Challenge is our head shops carry different brands. Ironically: scio mi nihil scire about vapes I pursued the freebase path - now it seems per your guidance the vape side is preferable. Knowledge is never bad. ;)
 
jocelyn said:
Thank you, and between yours and yesterday's guidance - got it. Really unfortunate that the official gvg path turned out how it did. As it stands I suspect I have far more research and knowledge to gain before proceeding. IE - I know nothing about vapes, vape tech, etc. In my research between previous post and now I've looked at various opinions, sources and arrived at a potential other solution - in the spirit of slow rolling won't name names, but seems like some of the cheaper than puffco devices with coils on them and a more apropos combustion temp would be fine. Challenge is our head shops carry different brands. Ironically: scio mi nihil scire about vapes I pursued the freebase path - now it seems per your guidance the vape side is preferable. Knowledge is never bad. ;)
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Are you euro based?

I have a couple of these and they work great.


For the vape juice starting with DMT free base, simply mix the following ratios by weight over a heath bath:
  • 1 part DMT FB (very clean for electronic juice devices)
  • 0.35 parts citric acid
  • 2 parts PG
Good luck
 
Varallo said:
Are you euro based?

I have a couple of these and they work great.


For the vape juice starting with DMT free base, simply mix the following ratios by weight over a heath bath:
  • 1 part DMT FB (very clean for electronic juice devices)
  • 0.35 parts citric acid
  • 2 parts PG
Good luck
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I also have an eleaf, the istick power 80w Eleaf Istick 80w Power (White) although really this battery size is huge compared to what one needs for our purposes, i could use it for many, many sessions before recharging.

I also have a geekvape solo as per Mintylove's recommendation but i prefer the eleaf buttons.
 
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