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Exp. Report Hyperspace amnesia

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Pemulis

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Hello Nexians. I’d like to share some recent experiences, and ask if anyone else has had similar ones, and what I might be able to do about it.

I don’t want to come across as a dilettante, confidently assuming I know more than I do. So, to be clear, I’m new to this, and have tripped on DMT 7 or 8 times, on freebase that I extracted from MHRB.

In short: I don’t remember the most intense of my trips. I’m convinced that I go somewhere, as opposed to just blacking out, because on these occasions, I have come back laughing to myself contentedly. Something about existence being a bit silly, a bit ridiculous, like I’ve been taking it all too seriously. I don’t know where this would have come from, other than a message received one way or another.

Oddly, what I do remember is that, each time I do it, I remember thinking “oh, it’s like this, isn’t it? It’s all oddly familiar.” I remember my vision beginning to blur, the lights appearing to dim, hearing that rhythmic but not intrusive ringing in my ears, the room dissolving into mosaic patterns… and then nothing, until I’m back in my living room, enjoying the residual visuals as I gradually return.

It brings to mind that strange, anachronistic chapter in The Wind In The Willows, ‘The Piper At The Gates of Dawn.’ In it, the characters find a lost relative safe and sound in the company of the frightening but benevolent horned god Pan, who promptly wipes their memories of encountering ‘ancient terrors’. I’ve often wondered what Kenneth Graham was smoking when he wrote that (the chapter is, unsurprisingly, absent from most adaptations).

I know what constitutes a ‘breakthrough’ probably varies between people. If I consider the above my breakthrough trips, my sub-breakthrough ones have involved OEVs of DMT architecture around me, whilst I still remain recognisably in my living room. These have a half-remembered, dreamlike quality, and involved a lot of striped colours and swooping shapes, like carnival tents or a circus Big Top. The colours can vary but the theme is consistent. On one of these occasions, I encountered a female jester-type entity, although she didn’t say anything.

My amnesia hasn’t put me off tripping. I still feel as if I am getting something out of them, perhaps something quite important. But it is frustrating, as I’d love to remember them! One possibility I have been able to rule out is the quality of the spice. My partner has also tried it a couple of times despite initial trepidation (I didn’t want to pressure her one way or the other) and had quite a different experience to me. She describes being able to see ‘layers between reality’ and a female feline entity, like a big cat with a golden warrior mask. Odd, because we do not have a cat (quite the opposite, a canine being shares our living space).

My plan is to abstain from DMT for a couple of weeks or so, in order to think about my experiences so far, and to integrate them as best I can. It seems like a good idea to respect the substance by doing this. I remain grateful for my experiences, such as they are, and happy to have found DMT (or had it find me) at this particular juncture in life.

For now, though, I’d love any input that any fellow travellers are able to give. Have you experienced this? Is it likely to improve with use? Is there anything I can do about it? And, perhaps most crucially, does it matter?
 
I have never had a conscious breakthrough when smoking DMT.
However, I have certainly 'gone places', when I have 'blacked out', both from smoking and ingesting DMT.
My latest smoking 'black out' was not the most revelatory, but it sure was good fun!
It is one of the reasons I am more interested in lower strength changa (20-30%) blends.
 
I have blacked out before but not often, the times I have its generally due to external things ( other medicine ). Do you prepare your body before you take it ? My thought is if you prepare physically maybe you will have more capacity to stay in the experience. Also what means are you smoking/vaping?
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It’s common. I once heard Andrew Feldmar talk about it in relation to high dose LSD(1200 mic’s) and he compared it to the way you can’t remember what happened when you are drunk. He was contrasting trad psychs with MDMA, which seemed to allow people to recall full experiences. When people come back and can recount long trips with events in detail and esp when it’s all in perfect sequence and isn’t somewhat foggy etc - that’s when I begin to feel people are making stuff up. DMT just is not like that. It’s blurry at the peak when you try to remember the finer details.
 
Hi @Pemulis, the trip you describe is familiar to me. I’ve gone somewhere (maybe 100 times now) only to return happy I went but without knowing exactly where. I used to remember the dominate color of each of the experiences. Actually seeing color in my mind was new to me, and I had no idea what it was like to dream in vivid color. DMT taught me that, and I still remember exact colors from trips years ago. Now the color magic has become old hat and I don’t come back always fixated on it. What I get these days is this very familiar feeling initially of returning to somewhere I completely belong coupled with the visuals akin to being attacked by a high-res tile shop. (Probably what some describe as the waiting room.) From there it opens up into somewhere I never remember, but as I return, I know that I think about where I’ve been. Even though I don’t remember the detail,s I do remember the remembering and know the I enjoyed it. Then I open my eyes and I’m back, and that feeling never gets old.

Also, I’ve lost the OEV experience. As soon as things in the room start moving I almost can’t help but close my eyes, even with a halfhearted intention of keeping them open. I guess I know what I like...

Do you remember your dreams? DMT is very much like a dream for me. And, I am convinced that there is an evolutionary reason that we tend not to remember our dreams so that we don’t confuse our dreams with the realities of our life.

One last thing – have you watched the series Severance? The experience it portrays sort of gives me the creeps thinking about where I may go when on a trip. I think that anyone doing DMT could find a little bit of relevance in that show.
 
I'm going to guess you are very sensitive to the spice and are dosing too high.

Cut your dose in half and see what happens would be my advice.

Once I am in hyperspace if there is still an "I" left I try to lay down memory triggers. Just simple trigger words that I hope will jar my memory once I am back. Each thing that happens I do this and I repeat it to myself. So by the comedown I might be repeating to myself something like female entity, sci fi palace, machine bug, spinning tapestry. . . As soon as my eyes open and I can control my body I open my word processor and write down my triggers. Then I work on fleshing it out.

For me the triggers work and can bring back a flood of memory. Then in the ensuing integration days more will come back to me and my report becomes more detailed.

I have also had some success recalling DMT trips by leveraging state specific memory. If I come back with a blank sometimes I will do a smaller dose and TRY to recall the previous trip.

DMT trips are hard to remember. They are elusive like dreams. Though not dreams one can train oneself to remember . . .
 
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Thank you for your responses, everyone. It's reassuring to hear that some people have similar experiences to me.

One last thing – have you watched the series Severance? The experience it portrays sort of gives me the creeps thinking about where I may go when on a trip. I think that anyone doing DMT could find a little bit of relevance in that show.

@NormPeterson I have watched Severance and loved it. A clever idea, well executed. Now you mention it, I can't believe I didn't make the connection myself!

Bit of a tangent, but in reference to Severance, I'd love to recommend the Kane Pixels 'Backrooms' series of short films on Youtube. It similarly does a good job of invoking otherworldly uncanniness, which I rather like. It's about a corporation opening a doorway into another dimension, but told in an interesting non-linear structure, being made up of found-footage, corporate training videos and CCTV. Probably not one to watch right before taking any kind of psychedelics, mind!

Anyway back on topic...

I'm going to guess you are very sensitive to the spice and are dosing too high.

Cut your dose in half and see what happens would be my advice.

Once I am in hyperspace if there is still an "I" left I try to lay down memory triggers. Just simple trigger words that I hope will jar my memory once I am back. Each thing that happens I do this and I repeat it to myself. So by the comedown I might be repeating to myself something like female entity, sci fi palace, machine bug, spinning tapestry. . . As soon as my eyes open and I can control my body I open my word processor and write down my triggers. Then I work on fleshing it out.

For me the triggers work and can bring back a flood of memory. Then in the ensuing integration days more will come back to me and my report becomes more detailed.

I have also had some success recalling DMT trips by leveraging state specific memory. If I come back with a blank sometimes I will do a smaller dose and TRY to recall the previous trip.

DMT trips are hard to remember. They are elusive like dreams. Though not dreams one can train oneself to remember . . .

Some wise and reassuring words, @Pandora . It might be that my proficiency with smoking spice did not keep up with increasing the dose, so perhaps it's time to revisit some lower doses and see what happens. But having you and others tell me that DMT trips are often inherently elusive just makes me feel better in itself, so thank you!

Also, just noticed your signature, 'Hyperspace Loves You'. I love that!

Thanks again for your assistance, good Nexians. I'll be sure to keep you updated with my experiences. But for now, safe travels...
 
You can click on Hyperspace Loves You and see that was the message that the entities gave me to pass on to you. It was not given in telepathy or body language like they normally communicate. It was given in text to pass on to the Nexus.

Another piece of advice is maybe use harmalas to slow down the trip. Of course that's if you're not on any psychiatric or other meds that are contracindicative.
 
What can help is to try to draw your experience right afterwards. These kind of experiences you usually very quickly forget unless your write or draw it somewhere. Then it usually also makes a lot more sense. If you really black out it can also be due to the excitement beforehand or if you're really tired, for example on Friday evening.
 
You can click on Hyperspace Loves You and see that was the message that the entities gave me to pass on to you. It was not given in telepathy or body language like they normally communicate. It was given in text to pass on to the Nexus.

Another piece of advice is maybe use harmalas to slow down the trip. Of course that's if you're not on any psychiatric or other meds that are contracindicative.

I didn't realise that was a link. I have now read that trip report and it must have been a really affirming experience, what a great message to receive. I don't think I have heard of anyone seeing readable text in hyperspace before (readable to humans, anyway).

Definitely going to look into the harmala angle (as I am not taking any contraindicative medications).

What can help is to try to draw your experience right afterwards. These kind of experiences you usually very quickly forget unless your write or draw it somewhere. Then it usually also makes a lot more sense. If you really black out it can also be due to the excitement beforehand or if you're really tired, for example on Friday evening.

Good advice @froggydays, thank you. I think both excitement and tiredness have both been factors on the occasions I have smoked. As for writing stuff down, I always do this - I have an entheogenic journal for this purpose which I'm sure will make interesting reading one day.
 
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