DiscipleofSpice said:Prohibition of Sally is inevitable, so get your own plants people. That's right I said it is inevitable!:evil:
That's exactly how i viewed reality on the heaviest spice journey i had so far.cellux said:He explains it further in one of his comments:
Think of it like this: Your mind is actually the 'outside' and this reality is the 'inside'. I call it the MIND FLIP. Everyone is looking INTO reality from the OUTSIDE. So when you die, you merely step away from a physical illusion that is contained within a greater reality. Thus, it seems as if people live in each others minds.
(I don't think videos of this kind are the reason for the ban on Salvia. Actually, I find this one quite harmless compared to the rest.)
PsilocybeChild said:But how is that guy so up and energetic?
MagikVenom said:PsilocybeChild said:But how is that guy so up and energetic?
I wondered the same thing espically the part were he SNATCHES up the bong shakes it and askes Why(or something to that effect)
soulfood said:MagikVenom said:PsilocybeChild said:But how is that guy so up and energetic?
I wondered the same thing espically the part were he SNATCHES up the bong shakes it and askes Why(or something to that effect)
A few times when I took Salvia, I started sitting down and then as soon as it came on, I got up and ran like hell (never knew why). It certainly doesn't pin you like DMT does.
gigaschatten said:Morphane said:gigaschatten said:Morphane said:gigaschatten said:Can't empathize with people posting videos of their Sage use. This is what got Sage banned in many countries. Flagged him.
P.S. Apart from that... yeah.
I hope the video isn't removed because of your actions.
Actually that's the purpose of flagging. As much as I liked to watch it, it's fuel on the flames for the prohibition monkeys, just like all the other live experience videos. If that guy was a bit more considerate, he would have made a play out of it for example. If DMT was still legal, would you risk public attention?
I couldn't disagree with you more.
Before YouTube, Salvia was made illegal where I live. Videos like the one in this thread is all I've got. The only access I have to the mystical experiences produced by entheogens.
If you're worried about prohibition, make measures to procure plants to ensure your own supply, and please leave whatever crumbs there are on YouTube for people like me.
I can't express how much I appreciated the live, actual experience of that person. The way he behaved was so genuine and adorable, such a fascinating insight into what the psychedelic experience must be like - it enriched me immensely.
By the way, a written account could in no way have come close to what that video expressed. Only a few people have the art of writing down their experiences anyway.
You know, I can't help it, but that sounds a bit selfish to me. Where I live, Sage has already been illegalized, so I don't give a piss about prohibition monkeys pestering me anymore. There are people though that can still profit from the insights of Sage... without prosecution. I'd like to keep it that way.
soulfood said:Kind of like like viewing porn is not actually having sex but can still give you a boner?
fractal enchantment said:The reality of the situation is that SALVIA VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE ARE USED AGAINST SALVIA AS A REASON FOR IT TO BECOME ILLEGAL.it has nothing to do with people wanting only for theyr own personal inner circle..that comment is not justified, is a bit of a cheap shot IMO and only serves to create further conflict and argument here..
I do grow lots of salvia and no I dont want it becomming illegal here and the more it is posted on youtube the more teenage kids see it and want to go out and get fucked up..thats just the reality of the situation..there are plenty of sites dedicated to salvia where people can learn about it..they dont need to go to youtube..which noone needs.
Maybe if you had ever tried it and understand what it's capable of you would understand..I personally know of people who went out and bought it and smoked it across the street from the store in a park and got totally fucked up putting themsleves in physical danger with all the heavy traffic in the area etc..this stuff should be treated on the level of Datura while under the influence(not becasue of physiological toxicity, but it can make one just as delerious)..Most people dont know that have taken anything and think what they are experiencing IS the normal reality..I would rather see kids eating mushrooms or LSD personally becasue it takes a certain ammount of maturity to really grasp and appreciate what salvia is capable of. The same can be said of LSD and mushrooms but you dont see people wanding around unaware of theyr surroundings in the middle of the road etc after eating mushrooms unless they eat an ungodly ammount.
Most salvia videos are stupid and dont contain anything enlightening to watch and while that one video was a bit of an exception becasue I think the guy meant well and wanted to share it with others, it's a real minority amongst all the bullshit salvia videos..thats is why youtube is not the place for this.
Trying to act like youtube is getting the word out about salvia is rediculous..it's already sold in newsstands..the word is already out there..in my opinion certain people just shouldnt have access to the stuff anyway becasue they use it in stupid situations..just wait till some 15 year old kid sees this stuff on you tube and goes and gets some 50x crap and ends up falling out of a window..
"That is a sad way of putting it. More like a blind person being led by his trusty guide dog."
I can understand that you want to try and understand what it may be like..but no ammount of expanations from others will do it ANY justice..noone else is capable of leading into that place..the place salvia takes you is untranslatable..completely unlanuagable..You must go there..and I doubt you will ever get to THAT place without salvinorin A.
You must undertand why people take this seriousily..people here grow this stuff and dont want to be made into criminals becasue people chose to post this stuff out in the open on the most mainstream place where it will be used AGAINST the salvia community..we're are not trying to be selfish..saying that just screams selfishness to me..we dont need any more heat when it comes to this plant..let us grow her in peace.
Again the video I think is a relief in comparison to others out there but I would just like to see it posted somewhere where everyone and theyr mom can find it just like that...salvia specific sites are one thing, you tube is another..
and I doubt you will ever get to THAT place without salvinorin A.
PsilocybeChild said:I agree. I can't stand the vids of peoples salvia trips on youtube. The wrong kind of publicity. But how is that guy so up and energetic?
fractal enchantment said:Trying to act like youtube is getting the word out about salvia is rediculous..it's already sold in newsstands..the word is already out there..in my opinion certain people just shouldnt have access to the stuff anyway becasue they use it in stupid situations..just wait till some 15 year old kid sees this stuff on you tube and goes and gets some 50x crap and ends up falling out of a window..