Interesting Reddit Post Regarding ACRB

[brokedownpalace10]

And the NMT in it. There is much in this post which is suspect, but I did find the stuff he said about ACRB Aya interesting. I've seen a lot similar on this forum as to it's effects. I've also read that people seem to find it "activated" by a little food which kind of correlates to what he says about cream. And... I got Hawaiian ACRB and it does seem to have NMT as almost the predominant alkaloid subjectively.

Anyway, give it a read and give me your opinion.


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Chrunga is my favorite quick psychedelic for people who have more money than time. I infuse 3 parts syrian rue seed powder with 1 part synthetic pure dmt freebase to make it. Extracted "dmt " doesn't work because it isn't dmt, but rather a mix of a handful of alkaloids which often includes some dmt. Vaping chrunga at a dose of 150mg or so can produce the gentlest and loveliest ego death ever. The only issue is people usually only take 1 hit because they feel so beautiful from the one little hit that they don't feel they need to go deeper. Tolerance builds fast so to go deep you need to vape all of it in a few minutes. If you feel the chrunga is too powerful, you can use whole rue seeds next time instead of ground up rue seed powder, for a more chill vibe.

My favorite slow one, for people with more time than money or who just want a deeper longer therapy, is NMT ayahuasca. (vaping NMT doesn't do much, gotta eat it)

Unlike DMT ayahuasca, NMT isn't challenging to the mind, since it focuses on opening the heart chakra, but unlike MDMA, it brings a divine love which isn't interpersonal. Thus you don't have the vulnerability to others that MDMA allows for, but on the other hand, you have the ability to give others this unconditional and impersonal love. It might not be best for marital counseling but it might be better for inner child self love meditation. Try and let me know!

I prefer to use low doses of this daily because it also serves as a parasite cleanse and general health tonic, as well as a meditation aid and a socializing drug at lower doses. No nausea is experienced this way. Some experiment will be needed for each person to find their proper dose. This stuff has literally saved my life from 2 parasitic infections that were really severe. It also saved my emotional life after my beloved wife left me in 2020 due to her own struggles.

My recipe is: Put 1-2g syrian rue seed powder (i grind seeds in spice grinder) into a cup of cold whole milk and drink on empty stomach in morning or afternoon. The fat in the whole milk helps to prevent nausea. Drink a little extra plain milk to wash it down.

After some minutes you should feel the effect of the rue, which is a nice mood lift by itself. If too much rue is used you will feel a little hypnotized and you will detect rue on your breath.

Now, thoroughly mix 1-1.5g of acacia confusa powder (obtained from living trees in Hawaii, not dead Taiwan trees which have only a DMT feeling) into a few tablespoons of CREAM (coconut or dairy cream work, but milk will NOT work as it will solubilize DMT instead of NMT, and you will get a more difficult and crown-chakra oriented trip for the first few hours). Then eat the confusa cream. Wash it down by drinking some milk or eating some food (not a lot of food tho).

Usually within 30-60 minutes the NMT hits and you should start feeling a divine peace and love which will affect everyone around you as they all begin to enjoy your auric field. When i took 2g confusa once i was on the floor just feeling so much divine love all i could say was "Love, Love, Love."

If you feel DMT instead of NMT effects, then something went wrong. Let me know if this happens because I am still troubleshooting this but so far the cream works wonders to make it an NMT trip.

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Here's a link so you can read the whole post, which I encourage. Just wanting to get opinions from the experts on the various claims this guy is making.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics/comments/1ds36yl/comment/lb3klzi

 

[northape]

Nice reflections, but his conclusions are all over the place.
As always, modern folks are too focused on single alkaloids instead of plant spirits.

Syrian Rue is not ayahuasca, but its own medicine. Period. It has some similarities with Caapi vine and that's about it.
Acacia Confusa could be a heart opening medicine, and it's the same for both Hawaiian and Taiwanese trees.
You don't need any food for activation in combo with rue if you brew it right and fast beforehand.
If your metabolism is sluggish, a teaspoon of honey with acacia tea can fasten absorption (but it tends to shorten experience).

Why complicate it with food, I have no idea? It would just create more burden on body and liver.
Eating powdered material is too taxing in a long run. Just make some tea. It's an alchemical process in itself.

All the stuff about trauma is his own way of working. Take it for what it is.
I like to sing kirtan on this brew. To each his own.

Acacia could be deep, but it has a tricky spirit. One needs to foster a relationship to unleash full potential.
It's a good candidate for plant dieta. This tree in combo with rue leads to a very open space, where everything dissolves in
enormous vastness. As said before, it becomes tricky at this point, so proceed with caution.

Acacia teaches about strength and resilience: roots in the ground reaching high to the sky.

Antiparasitic activity is most likely from rue, although raw acacia with its tannins may help too.

All in all it was a good read and I agree with the main message.

Love

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Nice reflections, but his conclusions are all over the place.
As always, modern folks are too focused on single alkaloids instead of plant spirits.

Syrian Rue is not ayahuasca, but its own medicine. Period. It has some similarities with Caapi vine and that's about it.
Acacia Confusa could be a heart opening medicine, and it's the same for both Hawaiian and Taiwanese trees.
You don't need any food for activation in combo with rue if you brew it right and fast beforehand.
If your metabolism is sluggish, a teaspoon of honey with acacia tea can fasten absorption (but it tends to shorten experience).

Why complicate it with food, I have no idea? It would just create more burden on body and liver.
Eating powdered material is too taxing in a long run. Just make some tea. It's an alchemical process in itself.

All the stuff about trauma is his own way of working. Take it for what it is.
I like to sing kirtan on this brew. To each his own.

Acacia could be deep, but it has a tricky spirit. One needs to foster a relationship to unleash full potential.
It's a good candidate for plant dieta. This tree in combo with rue leads to a very open space, where everything dissolves in
enormous vastness. As said before, it becomes tricky at this point, so proceed with caution.

Acacia teaches about strength and resilience: roots in the ground reaching high to the sky.

Antiparasitic activity is most likely from rue, although raw acacia with its tannins may help too.

All in all it was a good read and I agree with the main message.

Love

My ACRB seems to have NMT as it's main alkaloid. Extracted and smoked by itself, it gives a body feeling and is not too colorful. (It's disappointing) But, a bit of this extract added to MHRB extract makes it more fun and last longer. The purer MHRB extract gives me a "knock down" feeling after the peak. I feel a little washed out and headachy. I used to get his feeling strongly after a 5-Meo-DMT peak. A little ACRB extract added mostly eliminates that and lengthens things, as said.

Anyway, I kinda feel like NMT is like CBD. Not much on it's own but it modifies the DMT experience.

What I was mostly curious about is if it is different and/or better orally, as this guy says. Also, I now have to ask what it means to "brew it right". I've been meaning to just down some powder since it's so gooey.

Hey, thanks for the nice answer.

 

[Varallo]

This is the reason I don’t like Reddit,

Extracted "dmt " doesn't work because it isn't dmt, but rather a mix of a handful of alkaloids which often includes some dmt. Vaping chrunga at a dose of 150mg or so can produce the gentlest and loveliest ego death ever. The only issue is people usually only take 1 hit because they feel so beau

Numerous analytical tests have shown that extracts are almost always completely DMT

Tolerance builds fast so to go deep you need to vape all of it in a few minutes

Not sure what is going on here, but I don’t experience that.

serves as a parasite cleanse

…….

This stuff has literally saved my life from 2 parasitic infections that were really severe.

… whoa this is …. A lifesaver, or was there no parasite to begin with or was there maybe some other factor at play.

but so far the cream works wonders to make it an NMT trip.

Ah missed that one, it’s the cream that makes the trip.

It seems like there may be a developing guru complex, and the comment doesn’t appear to be particularly well thought out. A lot of absolutes and no variance is a strong indicator of potential misinformation.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

This is the reason I don’t like Reddit,

Numerous analytical tests have shown that extracts are almost always completely DMT

Not sure what is going on here, but I don’t experience that.

…….

… whoa this is …. A lifesaver, or was there no parasite to begin with or was there maybe some other factor at play.

Ah missed that one, it’s the cream that makes the trip.

It seems like there may be a developing guru complex, and the comment doesn’t appear to be particularly well thought out. A lot of absolutes and no variance is a strong indicator of potential misinformation.

Yeah, the guy does seem quite sus. I immediately saw a lot I didn't think much of. I was intrigued by what he said about ACRB aya and I'd love more input on that. I guess I'm going to have to find the time to take a whole day (or two ) and find out myself. How do you brew it and at what dosages?

 

[northape]

What I was mostly curious about is if it is different and/or better orally, as this guy says. Also, I now have to ask what it means to "brew it right". I've been meaning to just down some powder since it's so gooey.

Check out wiki page
Acacia is NMT dominant in root bark. NMT gives this euphoric joyful feeling, but clouds the experience a bit.
Mimosa would be very clear and sharp in comparison. My “brew it right” method:
Powder your material > Cook in 30ml/g water at PH4 for 2–3 hours > filter coarse plant bits > do an egg-white filtration > reduce to drinking volume
2-5g would be a good dose to test the waters, depending on your sensitivity (start small). I used to make batches from 50g of material, gauge its strength and
proceed from there.

My experience with changa is limited and I only did ACRB extraction. It was quite similar to oral brew, but a bit more
clear and DMT dominant. My mix was heavy on harmalas too (don't remember the ratio). My conclusion was that water
extraction gives a more holistic experience.

Acacia is Acacia and you will get the same teachings from it.
We are so caught up on states of mind, but true healing often goes behind the scenes.
Sometimes, a horrendous experience can be the most healing and an easy one just empty.

Take Care

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Check out wiki page
Acacia is NMT dominant in root bark. NMT gives this euphoric joyful feeling, but clouds the experience a bit.

Good point, good point.

We are so caught up on states of mind, but true healing often goes behind the scenes.

Yup, the best experiences seem to be the ones with the most pre-thought. I make many small batches and I need to stop that. Because, if what I'm doing is testing a batch of changa then all I seem to get is thinkng about that and a bit of recreation.
Thanks.

 

[northape]

Yup, the best experiences seem to be the ones with the most pre-thought. I make many small batches and I need to stop that. Because, if what I'm doing is testing a batch of changa then all I seem to get is thinkng about that and a bit of recreation.

Just ask yourself: Why am I doing it? What do I get from it?
You can answer yourself honestly, no one needs to know about it.
Some simple questions can show you just as much as any medicine.

 

[Varallo]

Yeah, the guy does seem quite sus. I immediately saw a lot I didn't think much of. I was intrigued by what he said about ACRB aya and I'd love more input on that. I guess I'm going to have to find the time to take a whole day (or two ) and find out myself. How do you brew it and at what dosages?

Read up on various alkaloid profiles of different species of acacia, Research - The Acacia Analysis Thread

Also at one point there was an method developed to separate the NMT, if you’re so inclined you could dive into that and see if it’s the NMT that is causing the proposed effects or that there might be some self suggestion going on. (Not saying there is but for now its unclear)

 

[Loveall]

Seems like too many unsupported absolutes to me mixed in with some knowledge.

I think that can be an unfortunate mix some times that could lead to misinformation and other issues.

 

[Sakkadelic]

I've also read that people seem to find it "activated" by a little food which kind of correlates to what he says about cream

I think the idea there is to a eat a little food to promote digestion and allow the brew to pass along instead of sitting in the stomach increasing nausea and potentially an early purge. not so much about the magical cream. dmt and harmala salts are readily soluble in water so fat is not needed to improve absorption like in the case of water insoluble cannabinoids. something more neutral like bread would be my choice.

northape brew recommendation is solid. with proper harmalation, 4 g ACRB was a good starting dose for me. I do not know how it compares to MHRB or more traditional aya brews but it was a great experience.

 

[BahiyaSutta]

Oh hey guys i just saw this post (used Grok to search NMT ayahuasca, which I have lately been calling Loveyhuasca, but AI is thinking that means MDMA or 5-meo-dmt with ayahuasca, YIKES deadly combos!).

I am the author of the reddit post. And I posted it here on the nexus before.
I am also the one who discovered Metta NMT, which is a vapable extract which has some similar heart-chakra blasting effects as Loveyhuasca: nexus post

I'm being called "sus" because I have lots of ideas I am pretty certain about. That's thanks to literally thousands of experiments (some of which were well-recorded, but not all). But I'm always open to learning and changing my ideas when I see new info.

Regarding my claim that mimosa hostilis doesn't contain pure DMT anymore (in general), I previously had my mimosa alkaloids analyzed by Benzyme here on the nexus (under my old username, moyshekapoyre). The NMT i separated was indeed NMT. There were numerous alks in the mimosa. Confirmation of other alks in mimosa was also given by Endlessness and Gordotek in this thread which began in 2019. I noticed the shift in 2019 (although based on this post by Endlessness, it seems it began long before that). There was one ACS 2025 Brazil study, but it was highly flawed. Then there was the 2020 Amariz study, also highly flawed.
My experience: I've been extracting MHRB for many years.

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Post-2019 I've tried extracts from many people aside from myself and in nearly all cases, their "DMT" was *not* just DMT (mix of tryptamines, but usually including DMT also). Many friends I know have reported the same thing, although the timeline is not clear. All I know is that many people recall a time when the reports mostly showed something like 97% pure DMT in mimosa, and I felt that pure DMT in the mimosa very clearly. Pure DMT silences all thoughts and feels very heavy and direct. With the mixed alks you generally get wandering thoughts, some lighter feelings, and a dreamy vibe in general, with less clear visuals and a harder time breaking thru. Some of those alks (after i separated them) actually felt quite bad to me and some felt not very psychedelic at all.

Note: I have tried mixing MHRB into cream/fat numerous times and it never produced the loveyhuasca effect that ACRB did. I don't know if that's because the batches that I tried were low in NMT, or if the NMT in mimosa is in a different salt form that's not fat soluble., or what. But I have definitely extracted NMT from mimosa. I apologize I didn't keep good enough records about which batches I mixed into cream.


One of the replies in this thread was maybe(?) questioning my statement that ayahuasca and loveyhuasca are parasite cleanses. I've had many people question that statement, esp. on reddit. That's not my theory tho, that's just a scientific fact. Check google scholar. People who don't understand that aya is a parasite cleanse (and a very deep one at that), will not understand why they are nauseous and vomiting. Of course, at a high dose, the serotonin receptors in the stomach can be a cause of discomfort, but at lower doses like 1g acacia, in my experience and the experiences of everyone I've worked with so far on this, the cause of discomfort seems to be related to parasite die-off toxins which are not being mopped up properly. If you look into parasite cleansing in general, everyone tells you "TAKE YOUR BINDERS"... yes, you MUST take your binders when cleansing otherwise you can't get the full benefits and you may have trouble handling the herx.

The question is just, which binders to take. In my experience so far, most zeolite is trash because it's not cleaned (or wrong particle size), so the pores are clogged. However, I cleaned my heiltropfen.de zeolite (in water with a 2g/hr ozone machine on for 10 mins), and then it worked fantastically well for instantly fixing the gut distress issues, every time. Another thing that helps a lot is certain fermented foods like kombucha (depending on the bacteria--some ferments work a lot better than others).

I also discovered that ozonating charcoal in water (in just 1 second) liberates a ton of fullerenes, which you can smell, touch, or drink to feel super relaxed. It feels just like pure C-60 to me, but a lot of C-60 is fake so keep that in mind. Some people say they are sensitive to C-60 as it actually overstimulates them, but they are fine with this ozonated charcoal water (I call it "Holy Water," and no i'm not a cult leader).

(I combined these 3 things and call them ZHoly3O. I always make sure people take it when I'm giving them aya/lovey)

Speaking of charcoal, another toxin that parasites can release is mycotoxins. You might just be eating foods with mycotoxins also, sometimes it's hard to know, but peanut butter is a likely culprit, and sometimes heavy cream, and in USA most of the yogurt sold smells god-awful. While ozonated zeolite can help with some mycotoxins, activated charcoal has more broad-spectrum effectiveness for this, although at 1-2g activated charcoal, you may also notice the trip intensity is reduced, especially if the dose is taken too soon after taking the ayahuasca or loveyhuasca.

Diet is also really important (altho i have no probs with tyramine). What I love about aya and loveyhuasca is they teach how everything really affects you. I didn't know that I'm sensitive to gluten, for example (Dr. William Davis, in "Wheat Belly," says everyone is). I wasn't even noticing that it constipates me. But after many trials, I discovered that if i eat gluten within 1-2 days prior to aya/loveyhuasca, I feel pretty awful, and since gluten can't be mopped up by zeolite or kombucha, the only way that I found to get rid of it is to take repeated low doses of aya/lovey to stimulate multiple defecations, rather than taking larger single doses. Once my intestines are fully cleared, then I can take more aya/lovey and benefit a lot more from it.

One thing I have noticed about the Nexus is people are quick to be skeptical instead of just simply trying something -- mix your ACRB into cream, then mix that into milk and drink, then just simply tell us if it felt different. You can theorize all your life but why not just try it since you're already eating it anyway?

I remember I also posted about vaping syrian rue with DMT (i mix them and call it chrunga), and literally nobody tried it, they just kept saying it wouldn't work. Try it, it's incredible!

 

[blig-blug]

Very relevant to this thread, seems to be a much more expanded version of the above comment ("the #1 psychedelic healing protocol, according to Gemini"): Ultimate Psychedelic boosts IQ, EQ, relaxation and strength unlike anything else! The Real Modern SOMA

Did you know that since Mimosa hostilis began its genetic drift in 2020, what here passes as "extracted DMT" is just a mix of random tryptamines? Now you do.

 

[northape]

@BahiyaSutta, now I read your post, and it is a mixture of some accurate information and many stories you created around it. Nexus people are skeptical for a reason, as you should be. I would lay off psychedelics for a while and see how your ideas fare in a more sober state. ACRB and other barks are not advisable long term. These heart openings are very artificial and could easily lead you astray. I feel some messiah-like vibes in your writing. Usually, this feeling that you have found a great secret and others do not get it already shows that you went too far into your fantasy. It is your life, and you do whatever you want with it, but I would reevaluate these findings and the direction you are heading. Most likely, you would dismiss my advice, though

Medicine is not about discovering the right plant, recipe, or cleansing. It is about you and what you learn about yourself. I see none of it in your writing, so by inference your findings are moot. Sorry for such a direct delivery, but some people need it. I hope I am wrong, and you are just a unique character. Although, your focus on the mental side of things tells me otherwise. Anyhow, much love and light on your path. May all be well.

 

[frequencyelevation]

ACRB and other barks are not advisable long term. These heart openings are very artificial and could easily lead you astray.

Mind expanding on this a bit? I only use ACRB as of late, and before that MHRB, albeit briefly. Would like to learn more about your statement.

 

[northape]

Mind expanding on this a bit? I only use ACRB as of late, and before that MHRB, albeit briefly. Would like to learn more about your statement.

We've covered my comment in another thread. Check it out:

blig-blug's Ayahuasca experience log

I know, in any case it would be a minute amount and very diluted, as it was the case this time. Although now that I think about it, I don't even know if what remains is calcium hydroxide, it may have reacted with some other stuff in the tincture. I have tried bicarbonate and, for whatever...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

blig-blug's Ayahuasca experience log

I know, in any case it would be a minute amount and very diluted, as it was the case this time. Although now that I think about it, I don't even know if what remains is calcium hydroxide, it may have reacted with some other stuff in the tincture. I have tried bicarbonate and, for whatever...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

 

[Jamie01]

I want to see more evidence personally of the claimed parasite die off being the cause of nausea at low doses. Essentially your claiming it’s a herxheimer reaction.

I’m not arguing that these herbs are anti parasitic, but I’m not sure that’s the initial cause of the nausea. It seems more related to serotonin.

 

[northape]

I’m not arguing that these herbs are anti parasitic, but I’m not sure that’s the initial cause of the nausea. It seems more related to serotonin.

I agree. Nausea and the consequent emptying of the colon may help with parasite removal, but it is not the main mechanism.
Nausea is produced due to harmalas acting on the central nervous system, which can easily be confirmed by ingesting different doses of rue.
Over 5g of rue seeds usually produces a nauseating effect regardless of your tolerance. Here is the first study on the antiparasitic effects of P. Harmala that I found:

https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/27/13/4161

 

[Jamie01]

I have also done a lot of extensive parasite cleanses and I’m doing a round of $$ herbs atm. The feelings in the gut are just different so I’m leaning more on the side that with DMT/harmalas it’s the serotonergic thing your feeling mostly…although some level of die off is probly happening as well.

 

[northape]

I have also done a lot of extensive parasite cleanses and I’m doing a round of $$ herbs atm. The feelings in the gut are just different so I’m leaning more on the side that with DMT/harmalas it’s the serotonergic thing your feeling mostly…although some level of die off is probly happening as well.

Yes, parasites would not die that easily. They die from the change in environment and some cellular action from the rue. Harmala-induced nausea is too rapid and acute to be anything other than a physiological response to a substance.