That's right jenkins. It's seductive and lala nice but right underneath something is telling you "fuck, this is SO WRONG". It's like your a white dude and you walked into the WRONG ghetto and know your gonna get fucked with big TIME. This wrong vibe is so prevelant like you are now WAYY out of your depth and these things fuck with you because they can. Read that Pablo Amiringo picture book where the Shaman paints his Aya visions and then talks about em. Theres heaps of accounts of evil Shamans loading up on Aya and then hanging out with strange demonic creatures which give them the power to inflicit evil spells on their enemies. OK implants, false conjecture huh? Yeah let's see one of these nice happy experiances some one posted on here shall we?: " had an experience recently.. I had consumed a fairly mild but effective dose of aya and decided a few hours in to smoke some acacia spice. It was beautiful! so very beautiful., I made love to a plant i think, with every esence of my being i swirled in ecstatic alignment with it. As i returned i was compelled to smoke more. I took a big hit and held it in and str8 away the sky darkened rather ominecly and the buzz began!! I/it vibrated so furiously that it threatened to burst my ear drums. As the buzzing deepened I went further and further into layers and layers of visuals. They were moving far too rapidly to make any sence of. Soon I was travelling so deep that i became curious as to the where abouts of my body (big mistake). Basically as soon as i thought it i was back in my body but it wasnt my own! I had this wierd feeling in my throat that felt like something being pushed down it. I poked out my tongue to make sure that i wasnt chocking on it and was horrified to see that it was extremely long and reptilian like! I tried to ignore this so again closed my eyes. The feeling in my throat didnt leave me and i 'realised' that there was indeed something being pushed into me. I suddenly had the feeling that something very alien was implanting something in me. I had the destinct feeling that they had seduced me to come deeper so that they could implant a communications device into me! " Wow implants, that sounds so healthy and empowering and nice huh? Getting an alien to push an implant down your astral throat while your possesed by some kind of Reptillian bitch ass mofo. Wow that's always been MY dream. Or then there was that Strassman patient that got butt raped by Alligator men, yep that would have been a joyous and spiritualy uplifitng experiance huh? And theres SO many of these kind of experiances and my own experiances, even though their different they ALSO have exactly this same vibe, aliens fucking and disecting your soul or eating parts of you. It's like in those spaces your nothing and these things treat you like shit just like we treat cows and sheep like shit. Your just a commodity that they exploit for their benifit but they buy and sell and eat your spiritual, not physical self, fucking astral butchers or some shit. Just think about it for a minute, does THAT sound safe to you?? This shit isn't just in your mind. You have a soul thats normaly protected and DMT drops all those defenses and now you better pray some ancient demon king isn't hungry or interested in you... Heh, also H.P lovecraft is a good way to describe alot of these realms, like Cthulu esc, weirder than weird but definetly bad and not your friend!! I feel like Lovecraft was naturally channeling some of this shit from the DMT realms, it's pretty similiar. The worst bit is who knows what the spiritual reprecussions are? Sure you don't look any and feel any different after a DMT session but maybe astrally your body has all sorts of fucked up implants and other bad crap in it. Man DMT is a gamble, it's like Ok I'll go in to take a look at the otherside but the otherside aint always nice, this DMT has strings attached and fucking evil cosmic contracts in fineprint.