LSD, psilocybin, DMT, mescaline, 2cb can all produce symmetric geometry in my experience.
You have not experienced that with DMT? Have you vaporized DMT?
You have not experienced that with DMT? Have you vaporized DMT?
Both with ayahuasca and with changa, but it was more fractal-like. And i guess fractals can be callled symmetrical. But not 2D. I have minimal experience with DMT alone without Caapi/Rue extract.@CosmicRiver did you experience perfect mandala like symmetry with DMT alone? I had the impression that it is 5-MeO-DMT that causes that kind of energetic structure. Even if symmetry is possible with DMT alone, it cannot be a defining feature of it in my experience and understanding. I don't recall symmetric visuals from cactus. For me it was like a cobweb or electric
@jamie, I haven't smoked DMT; I have a lot of experience with oral brews which I probably don't have to repeat.
About symmetry, do you guys mean to include perfect mirror images like in popular psychedelic art, or perfect mandala like symmetry on both axes of the entire visuals field? The former I believe is possible but rare and not a defining feature of visuals of any psychedelic. The latter I believe only happens when there is 5-MeO-DMT modulation of the visual field. Correct me if I am wrong.