69ron
Rising Star
endlessness said:69ron said:You can be pretty damn sure it’s 5-MeO-DMT if:
A ) the melting point is that of 5-MeO-DMT.
B ) it’s active sublingually, orally, and by vaporization in the dose range of 5-MeO-DMT.
C ) It tastes and smells like 5-MeO-DMT.
D ) It’s duration of effects matches 5-MeO-DMT.
E ) It’s effects profile match that of 5-MeO-DMT.
F ) You have it tested professionally.
If all but F match exactly, the likelihood that you have 5-MeO-DMT is still extremely high.
yep I also agree, thats why I said subjective experience by itself could indicate but wasnt absolute proof and thats why I asked if youve done a melting point or other tests with what you extracted from chaliponga. Did you (or SWIY), and it perfectly matched the 5-meo data? Thats interesting!
Yes, SWIM found A-E matched perfectly, melting point and all.
endlessness said:Another question im wondering: How much percentage was there of the isolated alkaloid (or alkaloids) that are being considered as 5-meo-dmt, more or less, in the chali extracted?
It varies a lot. It's too hard to give any real concrete answer. Each batch was different. There's usually 2-4 times as much DMT present. In one case there was more 5-MeO-DMT present. It varies too much.
endlessness said:btw, out of curiosity, how was it separated from the dmt, so that you could smell/taste it separately?
That's very easy. You put your DMT/5-MeO-DMT mix in a small beaker placed on an accurate digital hotplate, and then you bring the hotplate to about 100 C. If it doesn't vaporize, bring it up to 105 C, and wait until the temperature stabilizes. If nothing vaporizes, bring it up again 5 C, and so on until all the DMT boils and vaporizes away. Once all of the DMT boils and vaporize away you're left with the 5-MeO-DMT. Of course you lose your DMT this way.
Of course, using the boil-off method leaves behind all molecules that boil at a temperature higher than DMT. If there is bufotenine present, it will also remain. Unlike DMT and 5-MeO-DMT, bufotenine doesn't have a strong taste and so it won't affect the flavor much. Also, bufotenine is pretty much odorless, 5-MeO-DMT and DMT have a strong odor. Another thing is that freebase 5-MeO-DMT burns your mouth. Freebase bufotenine doesn't. 5-MeO-DMT tastes more like DMT than bufotenine. It's hard to describe the flavor, it's not the same as DMT, its more "medicinal", and not as strange as DMT. SWIM cannot detect bufotenine present in any of his chaliponga extracts. It's probably there but present in very small amounts.