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Is there place for shrooms after DMT?

Jamie01 said:
They go best together really.
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I'm a bit more traditional. Plant relationships are similar to human relationships. You can have many friends, but only one partner. The trust and connection you develop over many years grows into something special. While plants are tools, they're alive and have a spirit. To truly create a healthy relationship takes a lot of dedication and respect. Each of them is so deep that a lifetime may not be enough to become skillful. The main premise, though, is love, and they all align well with it.
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You're so bold, guys. I feel it's a very high level of work to mix different plant medicines.
I had my hands full for years with just rue, and I'm far from being competent with it.
I still believe everyone here has their own main medicine ally. Maybe I'm just projecting my ideas, though.
One thing I want to try is psilohuasca, or maybe mushrooms with inhaling rue incense during the journey.
Something tells me that even rue incense would positively alter the mushroom experience.
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Just to make it clear, I am not an advocate of mixing things outside the context of serious, intimate alliance of each medicine, and really knowing what you are doing by mixing them. Of course, people experiment all the time and it has positive sides to it.

Rue is a plant that calls for mixing other things, but only if it is with full respect and awareness. DMT, psilocybin, salvinorin a, and tropanes synergize very well with it. Some things may appear interesting or appealing, but (either) is dangerous and/or blocks the rue instead of potentiating it (e.g., 5-MeO-DMT, or cacti). Among the less popular, non psychedelic things that I have found to synergize is vervain. Each synergy has its own intricate fields of study, both in the way the combination is made, and also in the effects it brings. So yeah, mix if you want, but don't go crazy.
 
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I think some combinations can get tricky or even detrimental, depending on the person and a lot of factors, but others seem easier than even just using one medicine. Changa or DMT, for me, really smoothen out an LSD or mushroom experience and bring it into far greater levels of euphoria, clarity and coherence once I relax. Harmalas though make mushrooms increasingly decoherent and hard to focus for me and so I usually keep the dosage of each pretty low, and modulate with DMT or changa. Whereas cannabis is a double edged sword and I usually save it till later in the trip, but sometimes I'll combine with DMT if its a smooth experience

There's definitely something to be said about familiarizing yourself thoroughly with each medicine first before combining. That said, many ancient traditions used multiple plants medicines at the same time. I think they were just working with what was available in their local area in whatever way seemed to work. I think someone recently brought up how 3 tribes in Africa have now switched to 2c-b because they prefer it to the local plants available
 
northape said:
You're so bold, guys. I feel it's a very high level of work to mix different plant medicines.
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My boss had to tell me to tone down what I tell students about this kind of thing, among other things, because it can be considered "advanced practice," especially when done with more intention like in ceremony, as opposed to a show.

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universecannon said:
3 tribes in Africa have now switched to 2c-b because they prefer it to the local plants available
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Not completely accurate. That happened when it was still legal there, and apparently it was due to the difficulty of obtaining the plants in the cities. According to https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cb/2cb_article1.shtml
One of the most interesting developments on the local scene in regard to Nexus is that this compound is the active ingredient of a medicine called Ubulawu Nomathotholo (a Xhosa phrase which roughly translates as `Medicine of the Singing Ancestors'). Up until recently, Ubulawu Nomathotholo was available at various African herbal shops where it was sold as an aid in traditional healing.

According to the written information inside the pack: `Ubulawu Nomathotholo opens the mind to messages, visions and dreams from the Ancestral spirits. This makes it an excellent medicine for use by African traditional healers during intlombe, xhentsa, vumisa, divining, healing and thwasa treatment.' Ubulawu Nomathotholo is marketed by a Lesotho-based company called Inkwazi, but according to a spokesman for the company, Mr Solomon Daba, because of the banning in South Africa of their medicine's active ingredient, it is no longer being sold in the Republic.

`This is a great pity,' said Mr Daba. `The problem that many sangomas in South Africa are faced with is that because they live in the townships, far away from the countryside, they are unable to get hold of many of the plants and herbs used in divining, initiation ceremonies and healing. Ubulawu Nomathotholo is a very safe and effective alternative to some of the traditional plant drugs that affect the mind, but which many sangomas in the cities now find impossible to get hold of.
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dithyramb said:
Just to make it clear, I am not an advocate of mixing things outside the context of serious, intimate alliance of each medicine, and really knowing what you are doing by mixing them. Of course, people experiment all the time and it has positive sides to it.

Rue is a plant that calls for mixing other things, but only if it is with full respect and awareness. DMT, psilocybin, salvinorin a, and tropanes synergize very well with it. Some things may appear interesting or appealing, but (either) is dangerous and/or blocks the rue instead of potentiating it (e.g., 5-MeO-DMT, or cacti). Among the less popular, non psychedelic things that I have found to synergize is vervain. Each synergy has its own intricate fields of study, both in the way the combination is made, and also in the effects it brings. So yeah, mix if you want, but don't go crazy.
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Yeah that's why I had some lil caveats there. I do feel that it's important yo have a strong relationship and understanding to each individual plant and/or molecule that's added to the party. This ain't one of them shindigs where everyone and their mom can come.

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Its going to be relevant to dose. On sat night for instance I took .5 grams dry PE6 cubensis, and vaped a real low dose of DMT…like whatever was left in the vape after my wife hit it. Under 10 mg for sure.

That was enough to send me off on my way for a good while, into a deep visionary space…in the dark with icaros. That combo takes me the closest to some sort of cross between an amaringo painting and galactic travel. I have more of what is advertised as a typical aya trip, with that combo than I do with ayahuasca itself.

It doesn’t need to be multiple grams on top of a brew etc. I do not enjoy big overwhelming jarring doses. I have drunk a lot of brews and combined mushrooms with them, combined acid with brews etc..

I love harmalas too but they do tend to blunt some of the brighter qualities of the tryptamines. It adds other qualities but it’s not always what I want…and personally the connection to the goddess comes through even more with the mushrooms I use.
 
Remember when candy and spinning was the high?!

Tripping Cotton Candy GIF


I graduated from cotton candy to mushrooms and LSD and then to DMT. I have yet to receive my diploma. I believe I deserve a doctorate at this point.

Doctor Tripolation. Sounds good.

Apple and Oranges. Both are round and fruit. The have different colors and tastes. Sometimes I want an apple and sometimes I want an orange.

fruit eat clean GIF


Higher dose apples are very much like oranges.



**Disclaimer** -Post was created while completely baked on strawberries.
 
It does remind me of some dodgy pink "Strawberry" pressie back in the '90s that were a weird combo of ketamine and something (selegiline?) pressed with strawberry milkshake powder as far as we could discern.

I had a half-OOBE while walking down the street after taking one of those (being young and foolish at the time). I say "half" because the top half of my body consciousness fell backwards out of my body - which fortunately remained upright and continued walking - and I was surprised to see the back of my own head and shoulders before looking up at the lamppost behind me and snapping back into my body.

It was particularly strange to feel connected to my physical legs while the upper half of my consciousness discorporated, but I digress enormously at this point.

No exogenous tryptamines were involved in the creation of this experience (afaik).
 
Very interesting - where this thread got steered.

Sorry - missed out on most replies as I was traveling for work.

Very grateful to all these who shared their thoughts.

Oddly enough - after my last reply - I dreamed the whole night about having a shrooms trip. Well - I figured - if there's a calling - it needs to be answered and since I was heading out for a little work voyage the next day anyhow - I brought along a couple grams of the ABE variety. Long story short - the damn thing didn't work! :ROFLMAO: My stash is getting old probably and loosing potency. Damn psychedelics!!!! :ROFLMAO:
 
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