Issues with anadenanthera

[ShamanisticVibes]

I recently got 10 anadenanthera peregrina seeds, and they seem to keep rotting. I only have 2 left. I have them in a sandy soil, making sure to only spray them and not over-water. I have tried planting them shallow, and even directly on top of the soil like some tutorials state and I am stumped. I do not want to plant the remaining 2 until I talk to someone who may be able to help. Please, if you have grown anadenanthera, I could use a few pointers. Thanks in advance.

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

It truly sounds like growing this plant is a numbers game. I would acquire more seeds to play with and germinate a larger amount. Did you sterilize the soil? What is the relative humidity in your grow space? You can germinate your seeds in between two wet paper towels. I place the paper towels in a sealed Tupperware container and place the container on a heat source. Check the seeds periodically and when they germinate place into your sterilized soil mix.

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

It truly sounds like growing this plant is a numbers game. I would acquire more seeds to play with and germinate a larger amount. Did you sterilize the soil? What is the relative humidity in your grow space? You can germinate your seeds in between two wet paper towels. I place the paper towels in a sealed Tupperware container and place the container on a heat source. Check the seeds periodically and when they germinate place into your sterilized soil mix.

Yeah, I was afraid of that before I even ordered them, but I have several enthogenic plants that said the same things, and even that the ones that would germinate would take a month, or even two. This was accurate for about 50% of the seeds I planted, but I always had 10-30% that would germinate in much less time; some only a few days, others a week or two. I will try the paper towel method with the two remaining, and if it doesnt work out, will order a larger number of seeds next time. Keep your fingers crossed for me, I'm going all in lol.

Later EDIT: I very lightly misted the towel just enough to be considered a heavy dampness, so I think that will be sufficient if the seeds are viable at all, from further reading that they are excellent at wicking even the smallest bit of moisture from whatever substrate it is in contact with, so I went very light as per the norm. Do you think the same? Or do you have a different POV?

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

my heat source gets fairly hot to the touch so my paper towels fully evaporate within 6 hours. I lightly mist every four hours or so until germination. My method has produced 100% germination so far, but like you said some seeds will germinate faster than others, just like some plants will grow more vigorously and will be more pest resistant etc.

Are you growing cacti as well? I just germinated 40+ seeds trichocereus bridgesii, trichocereus peruvianus and lophophora williamsi. They are a month old now and most are starting to grow spines. It's amazing.

Here is some further reading if you continue to have trouble!

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

my heat source gets fairly hot to the touch so my paper towels fully evaporate within 6 hours. I lightly mist every four hours or so until germination. My method has produced 100% germination so far, but like you said some seeds will germinate faster than others, just like some plants will grow more vigorously and will be more pest resistant etc.

Are you growing cacti as well? I just germinated 40+ seeds trichocereus bridgesii, trichocereus peruvianus and lophophora williamsi. They are a month old now and most are starting to grow spines. It's amazing.

Here is some further reading if you continue to have trouble!

That may be what I need to do then. I do not mind misting 5 or 6 times a day. I am very attentive with my plants. Yes! I am growing cacti as well as many other things. My Trichocerus bridgesii and trichocerus peruvianus have only seen daylight for 48 hours. San Pedro still hasn't broken soil. I have Williamsii on the way, just hoping the phyto papers work out, was unable to find seeds anywhere, so needed to order a cutting. I also am growing sceletium tortuosm and Euphorbia Resinefera; which are succulents. The giberellic acid thing I have never heard of. Have you tried this method before?

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

Yes you can order the stuff from amazon.com lol. It works really well regarding hard to germinate seeds. Your best bet is to acquire some + more seeds and germinate lots of new babies. I'd be really interested in seeing a grow log from you. I'm thinking I may post some pretty pictures up tomorrow.

 

[titus]

I recently planted 5 of these and only had 1 rot, but obviously this is a pretty small sample size so maybe I just got lucky. I dunno. I had them in coco peat pots (for no particularly reason, I just had them around, but I guess they could have helped by allowing for quicker evaporation of moisture; although even this I don't know if it made a difference), and used a soil mix that was 50% coco peat, 25% washed sand, and 25% perlite (my regular seedling mix).

Also, good luck with all those baby cacti! I've recently set up a takeaway container that's germinating trichocereus HB07 x HB02 (i think its a cross between two bridgesii x pachanoi crosses), and most of the seeds have just germinated. I did the same thing with some bridgesii 8(?) months ago, although I started them near the end of autumn and I think this made them very unhappy; they're still pretty small. Hopefully some of them can pull through

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

Yes you can order the stuff from amazon.com lol. It works really well regarding hard to germinate seeds. Your best bet is to acquire some + more seeds and germinate lots of new babies. I'd be really interested in seeing a grow log from you. I'm thinking I may post some pretty pictures up tomorrow.

I was thinking last night about starting a grow log, myself! I think that it would be an interesting journey to catalog. I will order more seeds and some of that from Amazon and give it another shot!

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

I recently planted 5 of these and only had 1 rot, but obviously this is a pretty small sample size so maybe I just got lucky. I dunno. I had them in coco peat pots (for no particularly reason, I just had them around, but I guess they could have helped by allowing for quicker evaporation of moisture; although even this I don't know if it made a difference), and used a soil mix that was 50% coco peat, 25% washed sand, and 25% perlite (my regular seedling mix).

Also, good luck with all those baby cacti! I've recently set up a takeaway container that's germinating trichocereus HB07 x HB02 (i think its a cross between two bridgesii x pachanoi crosses), and most of the seeds have just germinated. I did the same thing with some bridgesii 8(?) months ago, although I started them near the end of autumn and I think this made them very unhappy; they're still pretty small. Hopefully some of them can pull through

This is my first foray with cacti, so I am very excited! But I am being very cautious, because I have been known in the past as the succulent killer (when I first started growing succulents, I would drown them by over watering). The aloe plant has been alive for 2 years now, with a few bumpy patches, so I figured I finally got the watering schedule for these kinds of plants down, so I gave it a try. So Far so good. The first 4 seeds of each variation that I planted were botches, but the second round of seeds is coming up now so I am just getting started, but already achieving some small amount of success.

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

Just remember that you do not need a lot of giberellic acid. I would buy the smallest amount you can so you are not spending a TON of money to germinate a few seeds. I'll be on the look out for your grow log and will be starting one as well.

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

Awesome! I will be taking the first pictures tonight when I get home from work. I am trying to think of how to structure it so that I can spread out as much information I can on as many different enthogens I am growing, while not spending too much time making any particular plant the "centerfold". Which they all grow at very different rates, so I am struggling to figure out that part of it. Maybe I will do two or three different grow logs; one for cacti and succulents, one for tropical and/or high humidity requiring plants, and anything else would fall into category 3? But then that also seems like a lot of work that I do not want to get behind, or fall off with any of them either. I am really just trying to make sure I stay on topic and follow through all of the way until the end.

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

I would post in the Ethnobotanical Garden section and just title the thread "My entheogenic garden" or "growlog 1.0" . Post all relevant information including soil type, lighting, water schedule , and other grow space information especially if you are growing outdoors. YOU MUST INCLUDE pictures ( seriously, otherwise the thread will be very boring haha) You will learn a lot and others will too based on what kind of information you provide. If you need a source of Lophophora seeds I know plenty of sources that do NOT require that sketchy licensing.

 

[ShamanisticVibes]

I would post in the Ethnobotanical Garden section and just title the thread "My entheogenic garden" or "growlog 1.0" . Post all relevant information including soil type, lighting, water schedule , and other grow space information especially if you are growing outdoors. YOU MUST INCLUDE pictures ( seriously, otherwise the thread will be very boring haha) You will learn a lot and others will too based on what kind of information you provide. If you need a source of Lophophora seeds I know plenty of sources that do NOT require that sketchy licensing.

I would definitely be interested in Loph seeds for sure. Just let me know what I gotta do. I am in PA. LOL I didn't get pics taken last night like I wanted to. On the way home from work I made a left turn and my friggen passenger door swung open had to drive 12 miles home with my right arm holding the door shut, so that was the sole thought occupying my mind last night. I will get to it tonight and get some things started. I will just start with what is actually growing and add things as they start to pop up. I appreciate helping me with structuring. Here soon I will have everything together.

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

It's all good on the pictures! I know how life is. I sent that link to you. If you have any questions let me know and good luck regarding your plants and your car door lol.