it won't let me in? .. or will it?... (update)

[hadoq]

Hi, first off, it may most likely be my ROA (sandwich method, can't find a GVG anywhere)

So I've been increasing the dosage for a couple weeks now and I've been getting some serious hallucinations, body buzz and what have you.

Closed eyes: it seems to, more often than not, take place beyond a dark veil. Every now and again I can get some distinct colors or shapes, but not the "all light and colors" that I can read here and there. On the higher doses I could definitely see some color and a bit of a better definition.

Fractals, ever reproducing shapes, I get that now, for CEVs

Open eyes, my ceiling is pretty trippy on its own, but on DMT it can get intense! My walls are more "blank" usually but once on DMT, they tend to become "fractaly". I've had that point where I barely could recognize my room anymore.


Body: feeling of fall, or sometimes floating, flying. But I always knew about my body, I never truly "left" it.


I notice that when I'm in the experience, I contemplate, I try and enjoy and occasionally, push a little. I'm having a blast but at the same time, it's frustrating, I kinda want to get through it all, break through the veil.

I think I've seen the chrystanthemum for the first time today, just a glimpse. I've had deeper geometry as well, a glimpse of an eye maybe at some point.

I don't feel overwhelmed when I'm in there, and I only realize afterwards how "deep" I went. Maybe it is a good side of not having previous psychedelic experience. I never had a slow onset, the "instant blast" of DMT doesn't bother me and I actually enjoy it.

However, I never broke through. I'm using the sandwich method in a regular pipe with overall decent results but I'm getting concerned over my dosage and I was wondering if it could be related to my weight.

Today I loaded up 40mg of crystals in between some herbs and while it was fairly intense, I did not broke through.

I've had "messages", nothing clear while I Was in there, but definite feelings when I was back to baseline, of what I should do etc...

Also, I'm having the occasional "residual" visual, nothing bothering, I actually enjoy it.

I'm still wondering how far I went, and how much further until I finally break through and lost myself in this entirely.

This goes too fast, when I'm in there, I try and push, push push, and I'm always disappointed when I feel it coming down.

The fun par is that once I think I'm down, I'm usually hit with a second wave of OEVs, like some "good bye" gift of some sort.

it's confusing, should I up the dosage? find a better ROA?

 

[d*l*b]

Hi, first off, it may most likely be my ROA (sandwich method, can't find a GVG anywhere)

Here you go… http://www.vaporgenie.com/glass-sherlock-vg-vaporizer

Today I loaded up 40mg of crystals in between some herbs and while it was fairly intense, I did not broke through.

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it's confusing, should I up the dosage? find a better ROA?

You could try building the Machine, many here swear by it.

Back before I had the GVG and when more of us were using more traditional tools to work with spice the standard idea was 50mg and 3 tokes. This seems to have disappeared into the aether lately.

While our needs vary and also depend on technique, my personal need with a traditional pipe or bong is 50mg, I also dosed higher reasonably regularly. I would say keep upping your dose until you get where you want or change your tool for a more efficient one.

 

[Swinjin]

Everything d*l*b said. You could also try this.
I got the gvg and have to say it's the best investment I've made since discovering this molecule.

 

[1ce]

I use a steamroller sandwiched with ash. I used to sammich with herbs. After I tried ash I literally hit myself in the head!


I don't measure my dose, I simply dump a pile of shards in, top it with a pipe screen and ash. I'll fill my lungs 3 times and the rest is history

 

[concombres]

I've been having the same problem. Try using a copper mesh disk in your bowl or even better in a nice glass waterbong. melt the dmt onto the mesh & smoke. I'd suggest smaller doses (somewhere near 20mg but not beyond 25).
The first time i tried after i switched to mesh, i broke through on 30mg with a torch lighter & it was a bit farther than i was ready to go.
It may take a couple tries to get it right, but mesh in a waterbong is cheaper than a gvg, more smooth than the machine (for me the vapor was very hot, acrid, & numbed my lips), & it is very effecient when used propperly.
when i discovered how much spice i was wasting with the sandwich method, it really made me appreciate the small amount i had left & use it sparingly.

 

[anrchy]

Make changa. Bong it.

 

[hadoq]

Make changa. Bong it.

gonna do that, I got what I need to make changa except for IPA which I'll get next week.

need to extract harmalas from caapi too, not sure about what to do there.

I want the smoother/longer experience, with crystals it's definitely too short and I'm always disappointed as soon as I notice I'm coming down (even tho I realize that when I "think" I come down, I'm still tripping quite a lot.

About visuals, yea, definitely not what I expected, so far from anything I've seen on a screen. fractals kinda get the basic idea, but the real thing is so much different and so much more complex and crazy.

I don't know, the rapid onset is nice, I never had a slow onset, never had other psychedelics, and I like the way DMT hits you. no foreplay, no waiting around, just puff and go. I just want it to last longer, 20 minutes ish would be perfect.

Can't wait for my first ayahuasca (still months if not years from now)
And I can't wait for my first breakthrough


Today, I felt I wanted "it" to try and scare me a little bit, it showed me it could be scary but it did it in a gentle way, it's hard to explain.

Whenever I feel things are getting sketchy, I really force good loving feelings and a smile upon my face, focus on breathing and say to myself "alright, this is what I'm getting today, got no choice but to go along with it".

to be honest, it never was truly scary for now.

I don't know about entities, if I had to guess, I had that "femalish" feeling once or twice, but it may as well be placebo.

Maybe tomorrow I'll do something, maybe I go out and get myself something to vaporize it better. maybe a VG (they don't have glass) or something.

 

[d*l*b]

The GVG is sold mainly via the website (exclusively until quite recently).

There is an EU shop (Netherlands) that has them in their stock list, they are currently out of stock though.

Azarius - Azarius

As far as I know that is the only place in the EU that offers them. The prices work out no better than buying them direct from the site for a UK buyer, not sure about import prices buying from other EU locations.

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If you are looking to extend your journeys you can try oral/sublingual harmalas. The journey is likely to extend beyond the 20 minutes you say are your ideal duration though.

 

[hadoq]

yea GVG in europe seems hard to come by so I have to find another way.

ordering from overseas doesn't seem that good of an idea due to the significant chance that it'd go through customs and possibly raise some flags in my direction.

I'll go to the headshop tomorrow, they have regular VG and some other stuff, I'll see what I can find there.

I'm tired of wasting spice now, all I want is to blast off relatively safely.

I've been playing around too much with 40ish mg doses in the sandwich. maybe I get a regular VG along with a glass bong, see what I can come up with

 

[anrchy]

You can make some 20x caapi. Ill be doing that this weekend.

 

[hadoq]

yea, but my english understanding being what it is, I can't seem to really understand the teks, I'd need someone to walk me through this

I've found a couple of things today

first, I'm gonna try this

http://www.dutch-headshop.com/en/vaponic-p-409.html

then I also got this one for a good price

Marketplace Finance – Marketplace Finance

can't seem to find a GVG anywhere

if those don't work, I'll probably try and do a machine or something along those lines

 

[hadoq]

first, I'm gonna try this

http://www.dutch-headshop.com/en/vaponic-p-409.html

alright, look no further, this is it

just decided to give it a test drive, I was planning to do 35mg later today to test it, but I figured I'd first try with 10mg, see if I could spot a difference with the sandwich method or infused leaf that I've been doing lately.

let me just say this:
thank GOD I didn't do 35mg right away!

it was just as strong as the strongest experience I've previously had.

the vapor is perfect, couldn't feel it at all, just a slight taste
pure spice, smooth vaporization (torch lighter) no waste, nothing burnt, clean

even 20mg in that would be more than enough.

I definitely want to go further in my experience, and this tool may just be the way to go.

and it was fairly cheap too

 

[d*l*b]

let me just say this:
thank GOD I didn't do 35mg right away!

Hehe, indeed.

My first go with the GVG was a misfire. My second go, a few minutes later, I upped dose slightly (by 10mg if I remember right) to 40mg and got a good vape. I won’t be going up as far as that too often! It did what it needed to do at that point in time but it will be a rare occasion that I need to go that deep.