Jungle spice

[eyedn]

Hello all! I'm new member and couldn't post on extraction forum I had some question so I posted here if anyone could help before I ruin it
it's second time I'm trying to extract jungle spice from mimosa
first time I mixed random amount of liquid rye with mimosa and then extracted with zippo
the result was about 2gr from 1kg root barks (0.2 %) and it was not as good as the one once my friend made
I actually didn't shake the bottle very much like only about 5 minutes several time a day
now I have 5kilo and want to start tomorrow so wondering was it important to shake them a lot (after putting naphtha) ?
because I have only few days to do it so wondering could I extract all the 5kilo on time?
one more thing is I couldn't find heptane or hexane here so is zippo bad in for potency or weight?
so what can I do to have more? and how many gr max I can have jungle spice from 5kilo?
Thanks

 

[ObsidianKnife]

Welcome. I am unable to assist as I haven't extracted before.

 

[*oneironaut*]

5 kilos? That's quite a batch for personal use no? Hope you are not selling it, that would not be welcome here.

Aside from that, welcome and with that amount you could expect 1-2% yield. So 50-100 gram (see why that would seem suspicious)

Naptha is not a good solvent for extracting jungle spice, xylene or d-limonene are better suited. Check the wiki and FAQ section... all your answers are there.

 

[eyedn]

thanks for the info
no I'm not into selling, it's half for me half for friend and as the previous time we used 2gr in a week as it was not so potent we thought this time making more. and I can't make it again because it's my last month here so that's whhy I want to make all at once
so what about shaking section? does it matter I shake it alot? cause dealing with that amounttakes too much time

 

[eyedn]

I don't know what was wrong previous time it was not like salvia takes us away when we smoking
it was only closed eyes shadows and black and white shapes

 

[cyb]

Wait a minute here...you want to extract from 5 KILOS in one hit?? :surprised :surprised
WTF dude...
please do me a small favour...put down that bark and read solidly for a month...then rethink those quantities...
cheers

 

[corpus callosum]

Hello all! I'm new member and couldn't post on extraction forum I had some question so I posted here if anyone could help before I ruin it
it's second time I'm trying to extract jungle spice from mimosa
first time I mixed random amount of liquid rye with mimosa and then extracted with zippo
the result was about 2gr from 1kg root barks (0.2 %) and it was not as good as the one once my friend made
I actually didn't shake the bottle very much like only about 5 minutes several time a day
now I have 5kilo and want to start tomorrow so wondering was it important to shake them a lot (after putting naphtha) ?
because I have only few days to do it so wondering could I extract all the 5kilo on time?
one more thing is I couldn't find heptane or hexane here so is zippo bad in for potency or weight?
so what can I do to have more? and how many gr max I can have jungle spice from 5kilo?
Thanks

Please read the Wiki with due attention; all your queries are answered in there.

Until you are familiar with the process try to follow the teks closely ie do not use random amounts of base.The mimosa/base mix needs to be jet black in color indicating adequate basification.

Lighter fluid will not pick up the jungle spice you seek; xylene or d-limonene are much more suitable (but d-limo extracts will need salting out- relevant info also in the Wiki).

Shaking the mix with solvent added vigorously often results in emulsions; gently turning the container over is adequate and again, the Wiki covers this too.

If your mimosa is not bunk then I think working on your extraction technique should give much better results- so much so that I doubt you will need to attempt to extract from 5kg in one go.We strongly discourage such large scale extractions which are questionable and also unnecessary once ones tek-skills are finely honed.For this reason you should work carefully with much smaller amounts in order to get much better results as your techniques improve.

 

[eyedn]

I think I didn't do correctly previous time. I think was because rye and fluid.
I always heard dmt is the most powerful that's why I have doubt thought maybe it's because not taking maoi or something wrong about the pipe. tried with many strong dosages that's why 2g was finished fast. I didn't know it can be 1, 2% spice out of it, the price of2kg was same about as 5 so thought will be max 10gr and as last time used 2 big jars this time 10 jars. but as you say I have to be more careful this time.
Thanks for the help

 

[G]

eyedn, i would encourage you to extract no more than 1KG at this time. 1KG = 10 grams of spice at least. Do you realize how far 10 grams can go? For many that is a lifetime supply.

A long time ago, G went for his first large scale extraction. He saw a small window of time and didn't know when he would be able to extract again. He completed the large scale extraction, hurriedly making many rushed mistakes to meet his deadline. In hindsight, he wishes he had only extracted 1lb at most. If he could go back
he would save the bark for the future. Mimosa Hostilis is in short supply. Soon it will be much more difficult to procure.
Rethink about it friend, there is no need to rush.
*EDIT* Amsterdam. It's not exactly in short supply in your neck of the woods, is it? You lucky duck

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

with q21q21's tek i got over 8g from just 1 pound (and i am sure there is more in there, but i am not sure its work all the salting for such little amounts).

and that was my first extraction (Excepting the prior test extract of 50g, which also went perfectly). doing your homework REALLY pays off.

not trying to be condescending, just saying.. the amount you get back is directly correlated to how much effort you put into it.


one piece of advice i will add, if i could do it again, i would do it in groups of no more than 250g. its incredibly easier to handle and much more efficient (i ended up breaking up my basified bark up into seperate glass containers and putting solvent in each one).

 

[Jarl Von Hoother]

However you do it, one way that works best with SWIM's cat is:
measuring up.
for every gram of MHRB- match one gram of lye and for every gram of either match with 12ml

1. grind up mimosa hostilia root bark into a poweder using a blender or coffee mixer.
2. premix pure lye crystals in water inside glass gallon jar. (not adding water on top of the crystals) until fully dissolved.
3. adding slowly, mix the bark with in it all

4. Using naphtha...
...(Optional): you may heat up the full naphtha container in a pot full of boiling water 'hot bathing'- to keep the naphtha hot and insure that the ALL of the DMT is extracted

..add naphtha to to jar mimosa/h20/NaOH. the Naphtha ratio should look like it covers the base mimosa infusion by at the least 15 to 20%

5. Shake!!! as much as possible.
(Opitional): if an emulsion forms (layers not mixing well) add plenty of table salt to the solution. Besides the salt makes DMT less soluable in the base mimsoa solution so it transfers immediately to the naphtha layer above. as is intended to go

6. siphon (pull) using a turkey baster off the top naphtha layer from the of the base mimosa steeped layer. --repeat steps 5 and 6 a few times--

7. after three or so times pulling the naphtha off. keep in a glass jar covered up with ceram wrap or any formidible form of a container and keep the naphtha liquid-sealed tight in the freezer up to 3 days, no more, no less and allow DMT crystals to precipitate (fall)
if your naphtha solution is still murkey it means the precipitation process hasn't yet occured.

8. after 3 days pour off naphtha *into a safe place to be thrown away at the dump hoepfully* ) and keep the DMT which will reside at the bottom. Keep in warm and open aired place so the naphtha may evaporate. if it looks dry- smell it. It should not smell like naptha. if it does allow it more time to evaporate

9. Recrystalization; steps 9 and 10
add hot heptane- Bestine (you can a buy a 4oz container $8 at the amazon ) adding 25 to 50ml per gram of DMT. a blob of unrefined mimosa lipids, known as tannins will wade at the bottom as you continue to whisk the DMT until fully disolved in the hot bestine

10. siphon the bestine from the fraction of mimosa jelly at the bottom, pour the bestine into a glass with lid to precipitate in the freezer after a few days and evaporate fully.
OR pour remaining bestine onto evaporation dish and let it dry slowly to yield bigger crystals.

you should have anywhere between 5 grams to 10 if you followed my tek enough. rember to read lots on this. good luck!!!

11. smoke!!!

hope this helped!

 

[RayTracer]

No ones mentioned it yet, but why are you attempting to extract jungle spice with naptha and rue? Did I miss something? I've used xylene after several pulls with naptha. After leting the solvent evaporate for a couple of weeks, I was left with a dark red waxy blob that tasted like shrooms. It was way more mellow, but not as visual as just nn- dmt.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

I have used 250 g of bark in one year's time. That stuff is worth more than gold to most here, so please, please, please, don't waste 5 kilos of such a precious thing!! Try doing 100 g first, following the tek closely. It should be more than enough for you and your buddy to last a while.

Also, you can extract regular spice, as well as jungle spice both from the same jar containing the basified bark. Don't limit yourself to just one, they both are pretty amazing.

And I'm also a bit confused about rye/rue and the like. You're not alone RayTracer.