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Magic Mushrooms haven't been affecting me.

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sheepie

sheepie

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Lately, weird things have been happening.

Flashback 5 months ago. Spring evening, ingested 2.5 grams of some pretty potent cubensis with my girlfriend, a friend, and his girlfriend. I tripped harder than ever. I felt some crazy energy, I couldn't more than a two or three words at a time. All four of us ended up in a kissing frenzy when my girlfriend and I were about to depart (mid-tripping my girlfriend realized she had to see her mom in 20 minutes at a certain place - no, not a good headspace at all, she was bad trippin on the way there). I remember walking away right after and looking back to my friend and his GF and being like WTF WAS THAT!?? They had the same expression. It was jokes. Anyway, one of the best, and strongest trips of my life off 2.5g.

During July, my friend picked up an oz of shrooms from the same guy. He gave me 8g's. I put around 3.3 grams in a subway sandwich and ate it on an empty stomach. My girlfriend had 1.5 grams in hers, seeing that the last experience was too intense. I ended up barely tripping at all. Things were a little more wavy and vivid than usual, but I wasn't tripping. I was bored. I later learned that my friend and his GF took ~1g from the same batch and tripped like crazy (laughing histerically, crying, repeat x10). These were from the same batch.

I was a little upset, but took it more as a learning experience (I also woke up feeling great the next day).

Anyway, so I read online that lemon tek makes the trip WAY more intense, but shorter, and seeing how I only had about 3 grams left, I decided I would lemon tek them.

So here's what I did:

- Squeezed 2 lemons and a lime in a cup
- Smashed some shrooms (in the bed with my elbow) and threw them in the little bowl of lemon juice (then used my fork to smash and mix more).
- In the meantime made 2 Teacups, one for ginger/mint and another for my lemonk tek tea
- Waited 10 minutes for the lemontek to settle
- Poured lemon + shrooms in a tea cup to facilitate dilution of the psilocin into the lemon.
- Waited 15 minutes
- Drank some ginger/mint tea
- Downed the Lemon Tek Tea.

Pretty much the same thing as my last experience. Some minor visuals. I got mindfucked, but not trippy-mindfucked. I just kept hearing sounds and shit. But I didn't feel the transcending feeling of cosmic bliss that I got a few months ago. Again, this was from the same batch as the one my girlfriend, friend, and friends girlfriend tripped super hard off 1g - 1.5g.

Anybody know whats the matter?

I want to Lemon Tek 5g next time, but I'm scared it'll backfire! LOL
 
Forget lemon teks and subway sandwiches, just eat them. I never eat less than 3.5 grams dried(unless its PenisEnvy or Ps. Cyanescens), on a stomach that hasnt received any food in 3-4 hours, atleast.
 
Psyren said:
Forget lemon teks and subway sandwiches, just eat them. I never eat less than 3.5 grams dried(unless its PenisEnvy or Ps. Cyanescens), on a stomach that hasnt received any food in 3-4 hours, atleast.
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This +1!! the subway sandwich was probably tasty however you would have deffinetly tripped harder on an empty stomach.. Not fasting at all, but around 6 or 8 hours without eating is usually a good bet.
 
I agree with all the above.

Something that many people forget as well, is that anti-psychotics completely kill trips. Some, however, if taken in small enough doses, or if you react a certain way to them, will allow you the haziness and delusional/confused states with none of the "Awwweeeeee yeah". I doubt you are, but, are you on any medications? Are you taking any supplements?

Also, did you ingest ANY psychedelics within the 3 days prior to ingesting (including MDMA, MDA, 2C-X)? Mushrooms can have a pretty mean tolerance, even if you just ate a quarter stem 2 hours prior. Of course, as with everything, it's different for everyone. It's possible that you're having difficulty letting go from the majesty that was your previous trips, and thus not "available" to experience the vast differences in every single trip.

Lastly, your diet can play a big role as already mentioned. If you're eating a lot of proteins, in my experience, this can greatly reduce the amount and potency of "effects". A diet rich in raw (preferably organic) fruits, vegetables, nuts and whole grains will do you wonder. Stay away from meat prior, during, and altogether (if possible).

It really can be so many things, from things like mindset and difficulty detaching ego, all the way to your level of sleep lately and if you've been drinking (Of course, do not drink before or during unless you need like ONE shot to loosen you up. I still encourage against it though).

This has ALL affected me personally in the past, so I hope it's helpful.

PS. I haven't noticed much of an increase of anything with the lemon tek, other than how easy it is to ingest mushrooms in a shot glass of lemon juice.
 
Not that you do or don't agree with me, but I think the replies you got were pretty spot-on. Listen to Global, if only because Global has over one thousand posts. As far eating shrooms goes, I usually eat them by themselves. I appreciate exactly what it is I'm doing, and remind myself that this experience is coming from a once-living (and some would argue still alive) organism belonging to it's own kingdom in the tree of life. Only take what you're ready for, accomplished by simply asking yourself "Am I ready for what this could potentially be?" Otherwise, just keep trying and keep on keepin' on.

Lovingly,

One
 
TakesOneToKnowOne said:
Listen to Global, if only because Global has over one thousand posts.
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I'm NOT saying Global is, and I mean this in a constructive not destructive way, but, is it not possible that Global simply talks more than listens?

I know my ass does a lot of that :lol:

Again; If ego induces: See above.

Blessings
 
A problem is when u are expecting s.th. you certainly get disappointed, also on mushrooms I realized that set and setting is way more important than the ammount. If I don't feel pleasant my trip is like 1/2-1/4 as strong as if you have nice music, relax and really concentrate on s.th. Let it flow, just sit back and let it all happen.

Maybe the shrooms haven't been as strong as the last time, but SWIM has grown a lot of shrooms always on the same soil, with the same ammount of water, and the "same" spores and even in the same batch people tell that the shrooms effect them differently. Acutally I don't believe that this is a matter of the ammount of active substance, I think it's set and setting.
 
I think you had bunk shrooms.
Your friend propably did not trip as hard as you think she did.
Try again with a different batch because potency can vary greatly. Do not become frustrated and cheew on 5gs just because you want to "trip ballz".

I can vouch for the lemon tek being very effective, producing a cleaner and more potent experience. What i do is, i blend the mushrooms with lemon juice concentrate, let it sit for as long as possible (but 20minutes is a good start), then coarsly filter with a teabag and drink all at once.

Do not get into harmalas or extremely high doses yet. Anger is never a good advisor.
 
Serenity said:
TakesOneToKnowOne said:
Listen to Global, if only because Global has over one thousand posts.
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I'm NOT saying Global is, and I mean this in a constructive not destructive way, but, is it not possible that Global simply talks more than listens?

I know my ass does a lot of that :lol:

Again; If ego induces: See above.

Blessings
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There's a debate about me! How exciting :lol:
 
here are some tips. Fasting is NOT always going to give a stronger trip..sometimes it makes it LESS potent. If you fast for like 10-12 hours you should take a small ammount of fruit with the mushrooms so that the stomache start to digest them..otherwise digestion might not kick in. I have experienced this in the past and that is how it works for me.

If you take them on a full stomach they might be weaker as well..and take longer to hit..which will decrease the peak intensity.

I like to have an empty stomach and make mushroom tea. Right before I drink the tea I eat a handfull of grapes or something else that is light. Fruit is the best and just a small ammount to kickstart digestion, but the system is still empty enough for the mushrooms to hit hard and fast.

Usually if I do it that way there is no fail. If that is not working though I just take more..I have on occasion simple taken more and more until I was way gone..that can get a bit much though so go slow...
 
If the mushrooms are good and you're still having trouble, you could introduce some harmalas into the equation.

You'd want to stay low on the mushroom dosage and work up until you find the sweet spot.

There are a lot of mixed reports on this combo but I assume the bad reports stem from dosing too high on the mushrooms.

If you give both substances proper respect, this is a beautiful combo.

I've also heard that harmalas pretty much diminish any kind of mushroom tolerance as well. I couldn't find the source where I heard that though, otherwise I'd included it. :(
 
With mushrooms, you just have to get over a certain threshold. Sometimes a tiny bit more can make a big difference.

I also think, fasting can reduce the effects of psychedelic's because eventually the psychedelic state requires some brain activity and the brain needs lot's of energy to do whatever it does.

The lemon tek works well, but some types of shroom are easy to pulverise once they're dried and i find that a real fine powder works even better than the lemon tek.
 
Global said:
Serenity said:
TakesOneToKnowOne said:
Listen to Global, if only because Global has over one thousand posts.
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I'm NOT saying Global is, and I mean this in a constructive not destructive way, but, is it not possible that Global simply talks more than listens?

I know my ass does a lot of that :lol:

Again; If ego induces: See above.

Blessings
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There's a debate about me! How exciting :lol:
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Haha, no debate, just joshin' around :d
 
Melodic Catastrophe said:
I've also heard that harmalas pretty much diminish any kind of mushroom tolerance as well. I couldn't find the source where I heard that though, otherwise I'd included it. :(
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Really?? This seems plausible and I'm interested in finding out. Perhaps I will experiment for us if we can't find the source.
 
When friends have taking batches of my shrooms in the past and they all give me varying pos/neg reports the next day I think it has alot to do with what we are talking about now.

They either dont take enough, have to much food (wrong kind of food) in there stomach, are on some kind of psychiatric medication or improper set and setting.
I try my best to explain this before i let them have it but alas most of them are just doing it for shits and giggles and have no motivation to educate themselves about the chemical or the experince.
 
I don't think harmalas reduce tolerance, as in after a trip taking more to trip again. I believe the harmalas block MAO from breaking down psilocin in the stomach just like with DMT, so more psilocin is absorbed by the blood. And then you get potentiation from MAO being inhibited in the brain.

I eventually always took shrooms with rue...working my way into it over a year or so. I took ground seeds or extract in a capsule, followed by ground cubies in capsules. Drink with plenty of water. Nausea was bad, but went away when the colors came. I would have a regular lunch, then not eat anything until dark when I was ready to dose, so I always had an empty stomach, but that was mostly precaution for the rue.
 
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