Martial Arts

[endlessness]

We've had this topic a couple of times but I'd like to start a new thread here in the welcome area so new members can also post.

Any of you practice martial arts? If so, which?

Have you ever tripped and practiced ?

 

[Eaglepath]

Ive been a Muay thai practioner for many years and for periods Ive been eating around 0.5g mushrooms an hour pre training. Its amazing!

You connect with your body in a different way, you are not so attached to your feelings in a way so its easier to use the body as a robot instead. Hard to explain, but its like you going into the "flow state" directly. You are also complete without fear and connecting to the vikings spirits!

 

[atomu235]

I've been boxing for years and lately got some basics in kickboxing as well.

It's a great stress reliever and superb cardio. Skipping rope has always been a killer to me ;-)

Ive been eating around 0.5g mushrooms an hour pre training. Its amazing!

Never tried this but might one day. Hope my coordination won't go down the gutter.

 

[Eaglepath]

The opposite brother!

 

[endlessness]

Awesome!

I've been training brazilian jiu jitsu regularly for like 6 1/2 years now, a purple belt at the moment, and love every moment of it! For the last couple of years I've also added striking arts like boxing and muay thai together with my grappling in the form of MMA. Im still very much a noob at striking, use it mostly to set up my takedowns.

Personally for myself long term I wouldn't like to get hit in the head too many times, that's why I avoid hard sparring with strikes, but I can certainly appreciate when expert strikers go at it.

Martial arts are so beautiful, I can understand they may seem violent but it can be like the opposite of it.

I've once taken 300mics to go train jiu jitsu when I was just a white belt, it was an intense experience since I didn't tell anybody and it was a day of tough training, but during the rolling (sparring) session I felt like I could predict better what my opponent was going to do. I'd like to trip again someday but train with someone who is trip-friendly in a less public setting.

 

[Eaglepath]

I think that a sparring session with the right partner can be a nearly psychadelic phenomena! You connect in a different way and through that dissolve boundaries..

As you mentioned "endlessness" it can look violent and hrm.. Muay thai is violent yes But! As with other things you just need to learn how to protect yourself and the mushrooms will be your sensei here!

Now to your 300 mics!!! Jeeeezes!!! Im not so experienced with lsd but 150 for me is a "stay at home dosage" haha

I have paractised some MMA as well.. also on mushrooms I remember... as you said, the tactics flow on a different level on the ground.. mushrooms are good for everything!

 

[Eaglepath]

This is not Martial arts (well maybe martial art for the mind) but a Changa joint(its perfectly fine to throw in a little mushroom or some cactus zip) before a Airyoga class is totally just amazing!!!

 

[atomu235]

I've once taken 300mics to go train jiu jitsu

Wow. After 300-400ug I can be in a different dimension in parts of the trip. I once tried some bag workout and running on 100ug but 300ug is def a stay at home and chill out dose.

 

[endlessness]

Eaglepath, yeah low dose mushroom I can def see it going well for martial arts

atomu235, luckily or unluckily, I'm naturally tolerant to a lot of substances including LSD, so my 300ug is prob like normal people's 150ug. It was still quite the experience though

 

[swimer]

Nice to see some "fighter" here! Ive done many of Martial Arts in my life.. over 2 years in Krav Maga then Boxing for 1 year also some fun with mma (but only for half a year). With time I moved to more acrobatic stuff like capoeira and from there landed in martial art tricking which was amazing but unfortunately with time i chose bad company and smoking weed every day. Took some time to open my eyes and now im sticking to calisthenics only. Still love watching boxing fights and martial arts in general but i dont think i will go back to it though
I had only experience with weed and amphetamine when i was tricking and second one did not give me anything good (hard to concentrate and muscle memmory was bad) but once after weed i had really good session of acrobatics. Felt this "slowmo" so i could concentrate on every aspect of figure i was trying to do. It was only session i landed doubleg twist, could never repeat that after.

 

[Aiwass]

We've had this topic a couple of times but I'd like to start a new thread here in the welcome area so new members can also post.

Any of you practice martial arts? If so, which?

Have you ever tripped and practiced ?

I don’t practice any martial arts currently and I have no previous experience at all. But I have been interested in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for quite some time now. There is a Jui Jitsu place near me but I’ve procrastinated on joining, mainly because I am anxious about being a complete beginner who knows nothing around martial artists that are working towards black belts. Any one have any advice for someone like me? Someone that has always wanted to train in a martial art but never had the courage to walk through the door.

 

[endlessness]

Aiwass, I know exactly how you feel!

It seems very daunting before you go, but generally it should be really relaxed cool vibes, people are almost always very friendly, nobody wants to hurt each other, rather learn together.

This may depend on the individual school, so here's my suggestion: Read up online reviews of schools in your area if there are multiple ones, call them and ask if they have a free trial.. So go there and check it out, check more than one out if you have the opportunity, see how the atmosphere of the place feels and decide where to train. Jiu jitsu attracts a lot of nerds, or just normal people, it should feel friendly. If vibes are weird or anyone treats you bad, go elsewhere. I've trained in like 8 different schools in 4 different countries and only one really was unfriendly, generally it's all good.

By the way, people who eventually get to blackbelt, its not that they have a special ability nor that they were great to begin with.. .Everybody starts being crap at it, like you will, and getting tapped multiple times. The good thing about jiu jitsu is you can always tap out whenever you feel uncomfortable or in danger, and people will let go. As some blackbelt said: "it's not about who's good, it's about who's left". So just start going and then keep going, and you'll eventually be one of them killers on the mat

Let me know how it goes when you do try it out.. A while from now we will talk again and I'm sure you'll be so stoked for having started it, and will be asking yourself why didn't you start sooner

 

[CEVISI]

I Do MMA and wudang taiji i use white and green kratom for MMA and red and green for taiji at a dosage of 3g and it works nicely

 

[endlessness]

Interesting, is anything you learn in wudang taiji applicable in the MMA training?

 

[CEVISI]

Bassicly not realy just some kind of taiji like throws and takedowns but if i need to do that i prefer the bjj takedowns they work better for me. So i can say from taiji i learn not much technics that i can use in mma. But what i get from taiji for fighting is body balance and to now how to bring the pressure and force right und to be calm in fight to act right and dont get in stress.

 

[Aiwass]

Aiwass, I know exactly how you feel!

It seems very daunting before you go, but generally it should be really relaxed cool vibes, people are almost always very friendly, nobody wants to hurt each other, rather learn together.

This may depend on the individual school, so here's my suggestion: Read up online reviews of schools in your area if there are multiple ones, call them and ask if they have a free trial.. So go there and check it out, check more than one out if you have the opportunity, see how the atmosphere of the place feels and decide where to train. Jiu jitsu attracts a lot of nerds, or just normal people, it should feel friendly. If vibes are weird or anyone treats you bad, go elsewhere. I've trained in like 8 different schools in 4 different countries and only one really was unfriendly, generally it's all good.

By the way, people who eventually get to blackbelt, its not that they have a special ability nor that they were great to begin with.. .Everybody starts being crap at it, like you will, and getting tapped multiple times. The good thing about jiu jitsu is you can always tap out whenever you feel uncomfortable or in danger, and people will let go. As some blackbelt said: "it's not about who's good, it's about who's left". So just start going and then keep going, and you'll eventually be one of them killers on the mat

Let me know how it goes when you do try it out.. A while from now we will talk again and I'm sure you'll be so stoked for having started it, and will be asking yourself why didn't you start sooner

Thank you for the advice Endlessness! I know that such places are not how I’m imagining them and that most martial artists aren’t looking to destroy beginners, but rather help teach them instead. I know this but still I have avoided walking through the door and starting. I think this is because it’s such a foreign activity to me. I’ve never been involved in anything like martial arts so it would be a new experience, a challenging one, but no doubt worth taking that first step.

Any advice on physical fitness before beginning a martial art? Such as lifting weights or exercising daily? Because currently I am in decent shape, I am physically active nearly every day for about 10 hours. However I have never really worked out with the intent to build muscle or anything like that. Will I be at a huge disadvantage starting out?

 

[endlessness]

Hey friend!

Yeah man, it's reasonable to be apprehensive but dont worry it will all be fine

You don't have to be super fit or lift weights. You'll probably be already in a much better shape than a lot of people who start training. There's a lot of really out of shape people, fat, too skinny, old, whatever, and if they stick through they get in shape and become killers eventually .

Me personally, I'm tall and skinny, have always been active but never been muscular nor naturally athletic. But actually not having natural strenght is an advantage to some extent, because you won't be able to muscle out of some positions, you'll be forced to learn the techniques properly, so you'll become more technical than some of your stronger peers.

Also, the strength and conditioning from other types of exercise are not really transferable to jiu jitsu, because you are not, for example, doing benchpresses in a straight angle like you'd do at a gym, you're going to be using your muscles in a lot of different angles and dynamic positions, your body will have to adapt even if you were previously into sports, build core muscles, etc. Also in terms of the cardio aspect, in the beginning even martial artists from other disciplines generally get very tired quickly because they aren't used to those specific movements, they tense up or try to expend energy to get out of positions or force submissions when they should be relaxing. You'll slowly learn to breathe in a controlled way and avoid tensing at all times, knowing when to use strenght and when to relax and wait for the right moment. This only comes with time, regardless of your previous experience.

Just go and try, and don't worry if in the warm ups you can't do any of the movements or you're tired quickly or whatever, that is completely normal and the teachers and others are used to that. They know it will take a bunch of classes and repetitions to get things right. They all will have passed through that

First class I couldn't do a lot of the simple warm up movements, and I was tapped by a girl when rolling, and also for months people would easily destroy me and I couldnt do anything, so I could have felt very embarassed, but I just keep going. Also not only you are getting better, everybody else is too, so you feel like you aren't improving much at first because you don't catch up to anybody. You'll tap countless times, no worries. But over the first few weeks/months you might notice that people take longer to submit you, instead of submitting 10 times in 5 minutes, now they submit you 5 times in 5 mins.. Then its 1 time in 5 mins. Then you'll go some rolls without tapping. And then a new guy will come in the gym and you'll submit and control him easily and you'll suddenly realize you actually are indeed getting better.. And you'll be hooked for life

 

[Camponotus]

Any advice on physical fitness before beginning a martial art? Such as lifting weights or exercising daily? Because currently I am in decent shape, I am physically active nearly every day for about 10 hours. However I have never really worked out with the intent to build muscle or anything like that. Will I be at a huge disadvantage starting out?

I‘m in the same situation right now but have lil jiu jitsu experience and wing tsun and some kickboxing/muay thai, too....

But these are all childhood experiences and I have to face my nearly 10years of pot smoking and alcohol/nicotine abuse now, so I started cycling and avoiding car drives, just living as healthy as I can and get up early, go to bed „early“ things like that...

So I‘ve still not walked through that train room door, too BUT I come closer to this probably through every day at the moment and the most important I remember from years ago is that the first thing you learn in some „fight clubs“ or martial arts centers or whatever is to LOOSE that fear or grasping to comfort zone in the first Nd you grow really fast and surpass yourself in a really challenging but respectful way and atmosphere!
Also you will not only loose the fear, you‘ll probably learn to deal with the fear of loosing, too... Just take things easy and do this for yourself and not only for the competition ... IMO it does enrich a being if in the right mindset!

But on-topic : I did my first low dose lsd/ mid range psilocin bycicle ride yesterday!
It was amazing, but someone has to be even more cautious than with sober riding!
What I experienced was that the tryptamine breathing made it all a bit more difficult in my eyes...
Of course I‘m not in the best condition but I felt climbing straight up the hill with let‘s say 80-90 percent of utilization felt like 110-120percentage....
And while you‘re doing full workout you feel like sober and focused but every little break or pause leads too full exploding visuals like a nitrous balloon...
So cycling works good for me I think in a low to mid range dosage it‘s really nice with sports or practicing, but dunno how the breathing
would be affected when you take a full dose acid or shrooms and I think a sparring or full power workout is a bit more involving in every way than cycling, but I want to try it anyway:grin: