MDMA before psychedelics to avoid bad trips - Just an Idea

[psychedelic]

Do you think taking a line/bomb of MDMA before or the same time with a psychedelic substance ( LSD, Shrooms, 2Cx's, DMT) will completely enhance the experience and avoid any potential bad trips? MDMA feels like ultimate bliss, but does it go together with psychedelic substances?
Ganja and psychedelics definitely go together, in my opinion. One does not take over the other, but the two 'highs' somehow seem to connect and cooperate together.

Anyone have any experiences with MDMA and psychs?

 

[DBird9]

In my experience yes, but MDMA and MDA are tricky because I've seen many friends become addicted after a few weeks of constant use.

I think one of the best times I've had while on LSD was when I candy flipped (MDMA + LSD), it was a great head rush with supper happy feelings and not too much tripping in my experiences (that's not to say that when I sat down to take a break from the party I was hosting I didn't hallucinate really hard).

But be careful, lots of MDMA in my experience isn't always the BEST thing

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

You can't depend on any substance to keep the possibility of a bad trip away 100%. I think that you can lessen your chances with some. Ive taken LSD and MDMA together but never in amounts I would have taken them alone. MDMA can cause some strange visuals and weird effects in your imagination, some of the wildest hallucinations Ive ever had were on MDA. It could make things a lot more confusing if something did upset a trip if you dosed too much but In the amounts I would take the combo it was a lot of fun. Benzos can ease the anxiety going into a trip, and make your trip somewhat more calm, but I highly doubt anything can eliminate the possibility of a freak out. Even though most comfortable experienced trippers will have or have had a freakout or two. I probably benefited more from my freak outs then the blissful. Learning to deal better with my fears.

 

[DBird9]

This isn't to sound snobby or superior, but I don't get bad trips. "Get" in two senses, I've never personally had one, and I don't understand how someone can. Now don't get me wrong, I understand how someone can be completely overwhelmed with a drug and lose themselves, I know a guy who did too many RC's and went OOB for a few hours and had to call his best friend to come help him locate his physical form, but if you're doing a hallucinogen and you know you're going to trip (how hard can vary) why would you let anything you see scare you into submission?

Like ntwhyyouknw said, you can't rely on one drug to ease another's experience.

 

[Omniverse]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

 

[DBird9]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

In my experience cannabis is the best relief for that comedown, but comboing shrooms and lsd is easily the best this I've ever experienced...before I smoked a gram of DMT that same night though...

 

[psychedelic]

Although comedowns of MDMA may be sad and depressing, there always seems to be a sense of peace behind the feelings and emotions. I once done a 2 day coke marathon and had the worst after math ever, and the drug is quite hyped... Not very interesting.

I took a small of Ket while on LSD once, it was incredible.

I asked this question cuz I can imagine being on that beautiful & peaceful state when on MDMA, + psychedelic drug + Weed, sounds like bliss for eternity until you come back to the sensation of time.

 

[psychedelic]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

In my experience cannabis is the best relief for that comedown, but comboing shrooms and lsd is easily the best this I've ever experienced...before I smoked a gram of DMT that same night though...

Shrooms + LSD sounds like an awesome experience, since from my POV LSD gives this happy energetic mood and extremely visual and everything is flowing + All the mind body soul experiences, where psylocibin (only tried it once 1.5g dried mushrooms) is more 'mystical' and 'wise'. When I did psylocibin, which was only once, it felt very warm and welcoming, with kind of a 'foresty' feeling to it, everythinng was sort of flowing 'smoothly'.


PS: Does anyone here go to pubs or clubs? I don't know what the average age of the forum members is and this website's forum feels more 'mature' than any other drug forums. If you have great stories with psychedelics on social events, please post them.

 

[DBird9]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

In my experience cannabis is the best relief for that comedown, but comboing shrooms and lsd is easily the best this I've ever experienced...before I smoked a gram of DMT that same night though...

Shrooms + LSD sounds like an awesome experience, since from my POV LSD gives this happy energetic mood and extremely visual and everything is flowing + All the mind body soul experiences, where psylocibin (only tried it once 1.5g dried mushrooms) is more 'mystical' and 'wise'. When I did psylocibin, which was only once, it felt very warm and welcoming, with kind of a 'foresty' feeling to it, everythinng was sort of flowing 'smoothly'.


PS: Does anyone here go to pubs or clubs? I don't know what the average age of the forum members is and this website's forum feels more 'mature' than any other drug forums. If you have great stories with psychedelics on social events, please post them.

I believe that the maturity here comes from the main topic of the site. I find though that mushrooms really rattle your body, you have to remember that taking trippy shrooms is not just hallucinating, it's poisoning your body so that it can work through toxins that get you high. LSD plus Psilocybin was AMAZING and I was on small doses for both! But be very careful because without much experience (we call it) Jedi Flipping is intenseee

 

[psychedelic]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

In my experience cannabis is the best relief for that comedown, but comboing shrooms and lsd is easily the best this I've ever experienced...before I smoked a gram of DMT that same night though...

Shrooms + LSD sounds like an awesome experience, since from my POV LSD gives this happy energetic mood and extremely visual and everything is flowing + All the mind body soul experiences, where psylocibin (only tried it once 1.5g dried mushrooms) is more 'mystical' and 'wise'. When I did psylocibin, which was only once, it felt very warm and welcoming, with kind of a 'foresty' feeling to it, everythinng was sort of flowing 'smoothly'.


PS: Does anyone here go to pubs or clubs? I don't know what the average age of the forum members is and this website's forum feels more 'mature' than any other drug forums. If you have great stories with psychedelics on social events, please post them.

I believe that the maturity here comes from the main topic of the site. I find though that mushrooms really rattle your body, you have to remember that taking trippy shrooms is not just hallucinating, it's poisoning your body so that it can work through toxins that get you high. LSD plus Psilocybin was AMAZING and I was on small doses for both! But be very careful because without much experience (we call it) Jedi Flipping is intenseee

Yup. This member of this forum are more 'open' and 'respectful'(ie.less ignorant) to others and judge less, etc. I wonder why:wink:

I guess that is true, I recall reading psilocybin mushroons are 'poisonous/toxic'. I'll be honest, after a few hours since the peak when I went to my room to try and sleep, my mind was bursting with thoughts, It was quite uncomfortable for the next 2 hours but I did all That I can do- observe and let it happen, bruh!

 

[Korey]

If we're going to call psilocybin poison, then with that logic can't we call all psychoactive compounds poison?

“All things are poisons, for there is nothing without poisonous qualities. It is only the dose which makes a thing poison.” - Paracelsus

I wouldn't consider psilocybin a poison at "normal" psychedelic doses, though it definitely becomes one when you reach the LD50 dose, like ALL substances.

Claiming "it's poisoning your body so that it can work through toxins that get you high" is misinformation, and reminds me of ignorant statements such as "you trip on mushrooms because they make your brain bleed" and "mushrooms make you trip because they are poisonous."

You're experiencing psychedelia because your body effectively metabolized psiolcybin, if it were a poison in the sense that diphenadione is a poison, there would be many points of references in the literature which would state definitive physical harm.

 

[rjb]

Do you think taking a line/bomb of MDMA before or the same time with a psychedelic substance ( LSD, Shrooms, 2Cx's, DMT) will completely enhance the experience and avoid any potential bad trips? MDMA feels like ultimate bliss, but does it go together with psychedelic substances?

No. Sounds like you're paving your way to a stroke. MDMA rises blood pressure, and provides muscle stimulation. DMT too raises blood pressure, so I feel like the risk of a cardiovascular accident is increased during those times. There's also the issue of the mechanisms at work: MDMA dumps your serotonin, while DMT needs that serotonin. It's like trying to get water out of wood. It might also be why the majority of users reported not so great experiences, because once the DMT wore off, MDMA's effects were also gone.

It could probably work with LSD or mushrooms, but I really don't see MDMA bringing very much to a psychedelic table. I personally feel like those substances work better independently. You can mix LSD and mushrooms, or mushrooms and aya, or mushrooms and LSD and have a more meaningful experience.

 

[anrchy]

Yes and no.

The only problem with combos is that you should make sure that you don't comedown on the MDMA before you comedown on the other substances. The comedown from MDMA can bring some negative vibes, and thus a bad trip may happen.

In my experience cannabis is the best relief for that comedown, but comboing shrooms and lsd is easily the best this I've ever experienced...before I smoked a gram of DMT that same night though...

Shrooms + LSD sounds like an awesome experience, since from my POV LSD gives this happy energetic mood and extremely visual and everything is flowing + All the mind body soul experiences, where psylocibin (only tried it once 1.5g dried mushrooms) is more 'mystical' and 'wise'. When I did psylocibin, which was only once, it felt very warm and welcoming, with kind of a 'foresty' feeling to it, everythinng was sort of flowing 'smoothly'.


PS: Does anyone here go to pubs or clubs? I don't know what the average age of the forum members is and this website's forum feels more 'mature' than any other drug forums. If you have great stories with psychedelics on social events, please post them.

I believe that the maturity here comes from the main topic of the site. I find though that mushrooms really rattle your body, you have to remember that taking trippy shrooms is not just hallucinating, it's poisoning your body so that it can work through toxins that get you high. LSD plus Psilocybin was AMAZING and I was on small doses for both! But be very careful because without much experience (we call it) Jedi Flipping is intenseee

Just so you know Psilocybin and Psilocin are not toxins. They are not poisons. Amanita phalloides (death cap) is a poisonous mushroom. Psilocybin containing mushrooms are not.

 

[DBird9]

The most well informed forum I've ever seen, I say that humbly. I also guess I have to retract my statement now! But I can't lie, I've taken mushrooms so many times and it sure does feel like poison.

Stomach aches aside, I think people are right in saying that MDA and MDMA don't bring much to the table in terms of tripping out. The problem I have with that stuff, and E is that there's such an empire behind it that buying a drug that isn't always pure really freaks me out, I feel the same about coke too. Then again I only have a few years of experience so I have ways to go before I become even more well acquainted with any substance. Molly's fun, but I think that it will never be useful for self expansion like Mush, Lucy and Spice are. Mostly cause it really amps you up as opposed to spacing you out.

 

[Korey]

Everyone reacts differently to every compound. My body whole heartily welcomes the metabolization of LSD and psilocybin, the physical effects are quite gentle even at high doses, just a very smooth and "clean" experience. With 2C-E, at high doses, it feels quite toxic to me, but I also have friends who report constant, clean euphoria. I like that there are so many psychedelic compounds, it's almost as if nature is mirroring our metabolizations and accommodating us by offering us an array of substances which can act as catalysts for introspection.

As far as MDMA being combined with psychedelics, there is definitely synergy for me, with MDMA and LSD. Also, MDMA may not offer such a deep visual experience as the traditional or even newer synthetic compounds, but there is definitely a lot to be discovered through introspection with the aid of MDMA, it is an awesome tool which can be utilized in grounded reality. I suggest reading up on MDMA therapy before completely knocking it as an exclusively recreational or party drug. Some truly hurt or damaged people need that openness and honesty with themselves that MDMA can provide, before they start taking the dive in the deep end into the psychedelic pool, where they may discover that all of their personal contradictions flow in constant flux. With this new found honesty they may be able to accept these contradictions better than they would have without the prior experience with MDMA.

 

[Rob42oiam]

I agree everyone acts differently i was at a festival last year and for 2 days straight i was doing lines of molly with white on white and shroomz at night the shadows gave me bad trip but all in all i had a great time lost my mind for a while but it came back lol