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MDMA ruined my weed tripping

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syberdelic said:
Yea, I have never had anything even close to tripping on weed. Sometimes I will smoke when I feel like I'm tripping too hard and need to take the edge off. It seems to counter tripping to me much how an anti-psychotic would. The ONLY thing that I've experienced even remotely like this is with mescaline. If I've taken a small dose and just barely tripping, I will smoke and the experience seems to unfold into a deeper head space and more vivid visuals. Now with a larger dose of mescaline, smoking will again simply take the edge off.

It's very interesting how differently we all react to these substances.
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thats so intresting my buddies never get it either, and use it just like you, in my case weed potentiates the effects or make them last longer, and it happened on LSD too but the patterns were so basic and went away after 2 weeks or so after DMT thats when the party got started and that mescaline effect is very intresting, we need more research!!!
 
jma182 said:
man thats cool i love weed tripping, never seen a chinese dragon in my travels nor a snake, i wonder if this happens to you but i get a really intense body sensation when i start weed tripping and i manage to go deep, when i saw the dragon and the lady, my whole body felt like the initial vibration of a DMT trip. Normally i just saw patterns and other effect.
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When ever I get into a trip like this from weed, my body does the same thing. I start getting super slow, and can't keep my eyes open. I feel a throbbing in the center of my forehead, and begin seeing geometry. A lot of the times I will be seeing pyramids, and massive eyes with in triangles shooting lights everywhere. I see what I can only describe as gravitational fields holding light, and pulling it all into a center point. Converging fields of energy everywhere...

I saw the Dragon, and I saw the female counterpart -- which I recognized as the female entity I encountered during an ayahuasca experience. I am just really curious on how the bridge is gapped. What have I done to get this sort of reaction from weed, to the point where I get to a space where all of those energies can converge
 
When ever I get into a trip like this from weed, my body does the same thing. I start getting super slow, and can't keep my eyes open. I feel a throbbing in the center of my forehead, and begin seeing geometry. A lot of the times I will be seeing pyramids, and massive eyes with in triangles shooting lights everywhere. I see what I can only describe as gravitational fields holding light, and pulling it all into a center point. Converging fields of energy everywhere...

I saw the Dragon, and I saw the female counterpart -- which I recognized as the female entity I encountered during an ayahuasca experience. I am just really curious on how the bridge is gapped. What have I done to get this sort of reaction from weed, to the point where I get to a space where all of those energies can converge
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Man that's so interesting that it starts similarly I wonder if other weed Trippers are the same, i felt my head vibrate and then my whole body followed, then exactly like you describe patterns begin to appear, i see a lot of eyes too no pyramids though.

I am curious as well some people claim cannabis can open the third eye and stuff like that, maybe some pros know more XD. For me personally i think it was psychedelics in general LSD began it all and DMT took it to a whole new level, im guessing that if there are new neural pathways based on psychedelic experiences that might allow you to tune back into that source.
 
In my experience there's a white light connected to the forehead. It's not neccesarily in the body or somewhere on earth. It's an astral light. I saw it on DMT when meditating on 'Love/looshe' a concept I picked up in some of Robert Monroe's books. I thought, well, show me the goods on DMT. It instantly showed goods. Around the light is a space and the light is directly entering my forehead through form a a 'laser' beam. I imagine it might be very intoxicating to have this energy move through you. I don't know though I'm not an expert.
 
Infectedlsd said:
In my experience there's a white light connected to the forehead. It's not neccesarily in the body or somewhere on earth. It's an astral light. I saw it on DMT when meditating on 'Love/looshe' a concept I picked up in some of Robert Monroe's books. I thought, well, show me the goods on DMT. It instantly showed goods. Around the light is a space and the light is directly entering my forehead through form a a 'laser' beam. I imagine it might be very intoxicating to have this energy move through you. I don't know though I'm not an expert.
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Yeah those energies must not feel nice, and yeah you can definitely pick up negativity from the environment some people can be toxic, i've seen accounts of people using psychedelics and running into dark beings and assuming they can send/take/use energy while interacting with you seems like a 2 edged sword, i do agree the energy of the experience changes a lot, since i saw the lady for the first time, DMT feels really filled with light and love, initially it was more awe and curiosity.

Since i ran into her and asked her if she would be my teacher i see her a lot, with the cannabis trips (pls come back:( ) and with DMT every now and then i see something more dark in nature, but as it starts to form in my FOV that part gets covered by a lot of light, which i like, i personally prefer an alignment with light filled and loving beings than dark douchy ones that seem to want to cause harm, those seem to be shut out by the light i saw. i can see em but from a distance, so far they haven't been able to touch me.

I go into more detail in another post, but when i saw a dark green entity, im pretty sure it tried to touch me but a white light started surrounding me, since then no dark entity i've ran across tried to touch me, and last week when i vaped, both trips were controlled by the DMT Lady i saw, seems like i can connect more directly nowdays (must experiment further). must be cool to see those lights or similar like a friend of mine who told me a story from before we met were saw full body auras of people, while being unable to physically make out their shape, he just saw their energy, and still knew who everyone was, that was the point were he was kinda starting to freak out, so my buds took him home and then he had some telepathy or so he thought were he could read the mind of people and even animals, strong trip to say the least.
 
over ther years i've came to realize the best time to take mdma is if im either at a music festival camping with some great friends or if im with a female companion that you both have mutual feelings for. other then that the anxiety is too much for me and i tend to talk wayyy too much lmfao
 
syberdelic said:
I know that everyone is different in the way they react to drugs but I just feel like I need to throw my 2 cents into this bucket.

Except for MDMA (and/or MDA) obviously laced with speed, I've never had a bad experience or a bad come down. I am very sensitive to stimulants and the after effects are absolutely aweful. If I take 300+mg (body weight about 175lbs.) of pure MDMA, it's a very intense roll and leaves me feeling the next day like I drank a few beers the night before and a bit of a sore jaw. I never get depressed or "blah". I also have never noticed a degradation in the quality of a trip when MDMA was consumed recently.

Now, I consider myself lucky in this regard. I've seen many others have horrible come downs from even very reasonable dosages. I've seen people vomit from MDMA which I have also never done. I've seen people take LSD or shrooms recently after MDMA and get little or no visual effects and just a minor body load.

I suspect there is a relation to the following but I'm a bit lost on the specifics or mechanism and this is where I consider myself unlucky. It seems that when I take DMT+MAOI orally, it royally fucks up my stomach for the duration of the trip. I'm guessing that it has something to do with the 5-HT3 receptors in my stomach, how they react to MDMA and DMT, and the modulation of serotonin by the MAO enzymes.

Anyway, I understand why you never want to take MDMA again and can get behind it fully. The one thing that I would suggest is to use your experiences (good or bad) to understand your own mind and body better. As an example, having a bad come down off MDMA could possibly be indicative of low serotonin levels. If this is the case, simply taking 5-HTP supplements can provide a huge boost in quality of life.
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I am so happy you said this it should be a stamp on anything that contains MDMA. No matter what people do not really research before consumption. That may be why they are there. To learn of their body. I think that there are stages though you have to go through before your ready to reach the light of dmt. I think that on it your learning how to control the physical emotions. It is like your body is thinking on its own. So I do think people should have the ability to experience this if they decide. It helped me to learn a few things about myself i wouldnt have learned with all the help in the world. Like sugar can be your best friend. Also that when I feel my heart speed up that is when I need to calm down a little. Possibly leave. Thank you so much for saying exactly what you said. Lots of love
 
Use antioxidants with MDMA. You will feel much better during and after your trip. You can buy supplements or simply eat foods high in antioxidants. Foods like blueberries, pomegranate, blackberries, cranberries, pecans, cilantro, and dark chocolate, just to name a few. Many herbs contain very high antioxidants such as cloves and cinnamon. Just my two cents.
 
jma182 said:
So to sum it up i will never take MDMA again in my life cause it interfered with my DMT experiences in a very repulsive and negative way, so i now loathe it. particularlly since i can get all of the lovey dovey feelings from LSD, plus a whole lot more, MDMA hits me like a really really shitty acid, kinda nice body high 0 visuals, nasty comedown, most def not the substance for me.
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Thanks for this post. I haven't done mdma since I started using dmt but I've been thinking I'm due for a roll. Now I've changed my mind. I'd be horrified if a fleeting chemical high like mdma damaged what dmt has given me. Maybe it wouldn't do that in my case but it doesn't seem worth the risk to find out. Like you I prefer acid anyway.
 
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