Methoxetamine?!

[justine]

Can you experience something similar to a k-hole with MXE ? I had 2.5g of pharm. ket some times ago (my first "psychedelic" experience) and it lasted me a year because I only IMed k-hole doses
and that way it was so intense that I couldn't get addicted to it at all.

 

[ibeing897]

Can you experience something similar to a k-hole with MXE ? I had 2.5g of pharm. ket some times ago (my first "psychedelic" experience) and it lasted me a year because I only IMed k-hole doses
and that way it was so intense that I couldn't get addicted to it at all.

Yeah you can, it's similar but more profound, easier to achieve, more controllable...

Will-Being- in many ways MXE is the opposite of ketamine... for me it's very pro-social, intellectual, exciting.... those aspects of ketamine seem to be completely gone.. the aryclohexamines are all quite different from one another.

 

[SHroomtroll]

Good stuff in here, i do feel abit more safe now and i honestly think this sounds like an very interesting drug...

Hopefully noone else will do something stupid like mixing a bunch of rc´s and pay the ultimate price.

 

[corpus callosum]

I tried methoxetamine for the first time a couple of days ago; my experience with dissociatives includes DXM at plateau 3 doses and ketamine taken IM at doses of 75-100mg.I am also very familiar with mu agonist opioids.

I snorted 25-30mg and it was completely painless.Onset was definitely apparent at about 15-20minutes and the comeup was smooth and really very civilised-unlike that seen with DXM.It had the warm opioid cuddles and the transition to the state of dissociation was subtle but clear.The dissociation was similar to K and DXM but felt much more wholesome and user friendly.I find the state of dissociation to be a fairly neutral kind of headspace and the degree of physical incoordination was alot milder than with proper doses of k or DXM.The CEVs were not that impressive until I smoked a bong of quality bud which propelled me into a closed eye visionary state that was unlike anything Id experienced before;it lacked the clarity and garishness of those seen with DMT but in a bizarre way it felt much more meaningful.I had the sensation of flying over citied landscapes, gliding up waterfalls in dense jungle and at times just floating through time and space through the most beautiful of clouds.

The strong effects lasted for the best part of 2.5 hours but residual effects were apaprent for a further 5 hours and the afterglow was pronounced and pervaded every aspect of my being.

All in all I am very impressed with this compound and I think it will prove to be very popular.I also believe that cannabis with it (smoked through a bong) has a synergistic effect and each compound embellishes the other.I suspect that the equivalent of a K-hole could be reached but its unclear to me what dose this would require and whether that dose would be safe is yet to be established.Next time I think I will take 40mg but I would advise any Nexians who are new to this to start with 25ish mg.

 

[ibeing897]

I tried methoxetamine for the first time a couple of days ago; my experience with dissociatives includes DXM at plateau 3 doses and ketamine taken IM at doses of 75-100mg.I am also very familiar with mu agonist opioids.

I snorted 25-30mg and it was completely painless.Onset was definitely apparent at about 15-20minutes and the comeup was smooth and really very civilised-unlike that seen with DXM.It had the warm opioid cuddles and the transition to the state of dissociation was subtle but clear.The dissociation was similar to K and DXM but felt much more wholesome and user friendly.I find the state of dissociation to be a fairly neutral kind of headspace and the degree of physical incoordination was alot milder than with proper doses of k or DXM.The CEVs were not that impressive until I smoked a bong of quality bud which propelled me into a closed eye visionary state that was unlike anything Id experienced before;it lacked the clarity and garishness of those seen with DMT but in a bizarre way it felt much more meaningful.I had the sensation of flying over citied landscapes, gliding up waterfalls in dense jungle and at times just floating through time and space through the most beautiful of clouds.

The strong effects lasted for the best part of 2.5 hours but residual effects were apaprent for a further 5 hours and the afterglow was pronounced and pervaded every aspect of my being.

All in all I am very impressed with this compound and I think it will prove to be very popular.I also believe that cannabis with it (smoked through a bong) has a synergistic effect and each compound embellishes the other.I suspect that the equivalent of a K-hole could be reached but its unclear to me what dose this would require and whether that dose would be safe is yet to be established.Next time I think I will take 40mg but I would advise any Nexians who are new to this to start with 25ish mg.

I've had similar effects, it's absolutely beautiful. Gliding up waterfalls, got that, the sensation of movement is remarkable... I have had this with high doses of ketamine but it's not the same. I also vaped high grade as well, definitely has a synergy, funny how it tastes... I actually haven't got that much experience with mu agonist opioids, a couple of the weaker ones but not regularly.. what parts would you say are similar, I could guess but I'm interested because it feels like everything [including my thoughts] are covered in velvet... been sick this week, may not get to try it again for a little while.

 

[SHroomtroll]

Still have not tested but i have some second hand info if anyone is interesed, it seems like the "m-hole" can be reached with about 100mg of this stuff, it is supposed to be very insane but still healing, also the potential for addiciton seems preety high, most people seem to keep dosing untill they reach this m-hole state...

But what i find very interesting is that you can "load" your trip with whatever you do 24hours before you take mxe... ive read about a guy smoking alot of changa a few hours before and when he peaked on the m-ket he was in this insane jungle world which was like a mix of aya and a k-hole.

THat ios he had some very strong aya kind of healing going on while laying almost unconsious and meeting very weird entities...

Although he said the negative part was that he really needed to keep his will strong to not go back in the day after.

 

[Orion]

My dogs left testicles sperm No.1,400,677 has a gram of this stuff. Not tried it yet, but does anyone know a good way to store this stuff for a long time? I'm thinking vial, freezer, on desiccant like most stuff would be a good idea? (I just like desiccant for everything).

I know sod all about the stability of this chemical.

 

[۩]

Hmmmmm....

First sample received insuffulated had absolutely no feel what-so-ever on the sinuses and was very potent.

Second sample definitely burned.

^ Anyone here notice this? What could be causing this? And does anyone know a way to recrystallize this substance?


This dramatic shift in feel has me weary of even using it.

 

[polytrip]

I was one of first to research this and I can't say enough about it.... YMMV, but there is something really really special about that compound... it's true it's a swiss army knife, wouldn't so much relate it to ketamine as I could relate it to almost anything... it's got stimulant, sedative, opiate, dissociative, anxiolytic and psychedelic qualities... it's quite spiritual, I can almost guarantee this one will be a huge hit.. I can't say everyone will react the same way and I would definitely be concerned about fiending/physical addiction + mania, losing your mind, everything could go wrong and because this one seems to make you more of what you are... I kinda expect it to turn obnoxious assholes into even bigger assholes, and I can see this one easily bringing ANY mental issues directly to the forefront. Proceed with caution, but yes, highly highly recommended, even if you don't like dissociatives, please be safe, plz plz.

This sounds as if it has simmilarities with cannabis.

 

[Orion]

Still have not tested but i have some second hand info if anyone is interesed, it seems like the "m-hole" can be reached with about 100mg of this stuff

I can confirm this. I entered sub-nothingness on 90+ mg.

Insane. I thought about writing a report but it's so damn difficult to explain.

 

[dumbstruck]

Hmmmmm....

First sample received insuffulated had absolutely no feel what-so-ever on the sinuses and was very potent.

Second sample definitely burned.

^ Anyone here notice this? What could be causing this? And does anyone know a way to recrystallize this substance

I did notice this. The first synth still had a feel, that hollow back of the nose ketamine type burning pain, but it was very minor and was barely noticeable in smaller amounts. This newer batch most certainly has a significantly stronger effect. I was very surprised that methoxetamine didn't burn as much with the first batch, and this second one seems to be a lot more in line with what I originally expected. The burn feels like the same kind in both cases, so I imagine its' primarily from the same source, be it impurity or methoxetamine itself.

Perhaps the original batch had a higher amount of a particular impurity which does not burn that masked the burn of the actual methoxetamine? These companies seem too well off to spare expense on something that is taken care of by a couple washes, so for some reason I don't suspect it is due to a higher level of impurity or due to a different impurity altogether. Was there a CoA or any test results included with your second sample to compare purity levels? I'll send a mail off to the company I picked my second batch up from and ask if they have any HPLC or GC/MS or other similar documentation.

Recrystallize seems like a tall order on a new chem. I would have no idea how to approach that with my level of understanding. Perhaps dissolve in something like MEK and add something like heptane dropwise until precipitate appears. Settle and decant and add another drop of heptane. Should selectively drop out methoxetamine or selectively drop out potential impurities (which would hopefully be enough to see). Might work to remove some impurity. Might be easier to just test a bunch of solvents until a few are found that it in insoluble in, and then just do a couple washes and hope for the best.

 

[Jorkest]

ive found that eating it is a much better way of taking it...none of that hollow feel that you talked about earlier...it doesnt reallllly burn but i had a sore throat(before i tried it) and it helped the pain go away..but then it dried out my sinuses and i had to use some saline...my nose is completely fine now but im totally going to stick with eating it

its much more of a gentle come up and the effects are more euphoric and less abrasive it seems..ive eaten it twice at 20mg dosage and its absolutely divine...its great eating it..because it gives you a chance to forget that you took it...and then it just creeps up on you until its fully there...very nice feeling...

in the future im gonna go up to 30mg orally..and see how that compared to 30mg snorted..so far though 20mg is perfect for a night of laying in bed playing video games(red dead redemption....awesome fuckin game)

its also very psychedelic..but different than most..its mostly in the mind and less visual..but i havent been smoking weed(dont have any)

ive had a hard time watching any movie on it that has any killing..it makes me afraid of dieing myself..or people that i love..but movies such as Meet the Robinsons..animated children movies...are soooooo awesome to watch...they make the experience light hearted and magical...while realistic action movies cause a sense of anxiety...

this chemical allows you to become fully involved in the world of what you are watching and i find that a very neat aspect to the experience

 

[PureMan]

This material has a lot of potential.

For me, the ideal dose range is between 25mg - 35mg. It has helped me tremendously with my depression, and my reliance on alcohol. If I dose sometime in the afternoon, the rest of day is brighter.. The afterglow is amazing!

I have found that it is hard to re dose with this medicine. A couple times I re-dosed about 3-4 hours after my first dose, only to feel really strange, and not as euphoric.. maybe I was dosing too high?... not sure.

For the first 3-4 days that I had MXE I dosed every one of those days, but I haven't been dosing every day since then, nor have I really been that tempted to dose every day. I haven't noticed any withdrawal symptoms. I feel that if you respect this medicine, it can have great rewards. There is potential for abuse, and this is a new RC, so tread lightly.

I haven't experimented with higher doses yet, but I'm not really sure if I need to.. I'm happy with the doses I have been taking.

 

[Jorkest]

im much happier with the lower range of doses..even 10mg doses are interesting..but eating it is really the best way i have found to use this...maybe sublingual is nice but i cant stand the flavor of most chemicals

 

[ibeing897]

im much happier with the lower range of doses..even 10mg doses are interesting..but eating it is really the best way i have found to use this...maybe sublingual is nice but i cant stand the flavor of most chemicals

being one of the first people to try this, I've since done it maybe 30 times, now have huge tolerance, 200mg to get me where 20mg would have last year.. glad to hear people are having good experiences... I wouldn't normally recommend an RC to this community, but MXE is a special case, it has a relationship with DMT that I don't quite understand... maybe being a DMT user and the memories that go with it are the key, MXE seems to reconnect your memories with your experience.

 

[Shayku]

A question for the mods - since this is legal, would it not be ok to talk about where to obtain it? In Canada, for example?

 

[PureMan]

Another note -

SWIM smoked 20mg of spice while on 30mg MXE and it felt twice as long.. and strangely, no visuals.. There does seem to be a synergy here.

 

[narmz]

Is there any reputable information regarding even the existence of methoxetamine? I looked at the wikipedia page, but there is only one source in the whole article, which goes to 4meopcp.com which is a dead website and a completely different chemical.

Most research chemicals you run into were synthed by shulgin or nichols or some student who worked with nichols, etc. There is usually sourced peer-reviewed scientific articles regarding these chemicals before people start buying them up. Why is there no real information on this? Is there a patent somewhere? Was it created by a clandestine chemist? Why are there no credentials behind it?

 

[۩]

There's an interview with the chemist on vice magazine online.

http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n2/htdocs/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704.php?page=1

Samples have also been mass spectrometered and the results came back legit. [source: drugs-forum threads]

 

[narmz]

thanks house! i was getting worried when i couldn't find any legit infos, this helps