My failed DMT experience, and questions

[ThatExistentAsian]

My experience:

Spoiler

I've had quite a bit of interest in DMT at-least 1-2 years before i finally got a chance to try,

I had just obtained the substance and was stoked to try. I got together with 2 of my friends. They both were the heavy stoner occasional psychedelic kind of people. I personally was less experienced with drugs and other substances than them, but not exactly experience free.

The method i used was the sandwich method using a simple glass pipe (Not the bubble kind) using dried Caapi leaves as herb used to sandwich. Not the best method, i know, but it was the one i had most immediate access to.

What happened was both my friends managed to get the dmt experience. I put 70-100mg in the sandwich, and we took turns to babysit each other since it would only last 15-30 mins.

But when it was my turn. My took my puff and nothing happened i had one deep breath, but when my lungs were only half full, but a coughed as i was still inhaling, as i feared i would. So it must of either not had time to absorb or i must of burned most of it by accident. Well my vision did get wavy for a few seconds, and i did get that body high feeling, for a sort while maybe 1 min at best.

I must say for my friends, it was their "stoner experience" that really shown though. They were fully tripped out, almost to break though point. And they still managed to carefully and steadily hold the flame gently on the herb without burning it, to take more puffs. It was amazing. And they were able to take full inhales, without coughing. I wasn't a regular smoker of any kind of substance so that was probably my folly.

I refused to be the only one to not have the dmt experience so i tried again with around 125mg, hopping the extra dose would compensate for my lack of experience with using a pipe. But again it was the same result.

My question is, since i still have a bit of DMT left maybe 100-130mg(it's hard to measure) and plenty of dried caapi about 3-4 ounces. I was wondering if i could make a make shift ayahuasca, by dissolving the rest of the DMT into a small cup of thick dried caapi tea like solution. I couldn't find anything on dissolving DMT freebase powder into caapi tea. So i was wondering if it would work, and what the dosages for oral might be.

 

[concombres]

My experience:

Spoiler

I've had quite a bit of interest in DMT at-least 1-2 years before i finally got a chance to try,

I had just obtained the substance and was stoked to try. I got together with 2 of my friends. They both were the heavy stoner occasional psychedelic kind of people. I personally was less experienced with drugs and other substances than them, but not exactly experience free.

The method i used was the sandwich method using a simple glass pipe (Not the bubble kind) using dried Caapi leaves as herb used to sandwich. Not the best method, i know, but it was the one i had most immediate access to.

What happened was both my friends managed to get the dmt experience. I put 70-100mg in the sandwich, and we took turns to babysit each other since it would only last 15-30 mins.

But when it was my turn. My took my puff and nothing happened i had one deep breath, but when my lungs were only half full, but a coughed as i was still inhaling, as i feared i would. So it must of either not had time to absorb or i must of burned most of it by accident. Well my vision did get wavy for a few seconds, and i did get that body high feeling, for a sort while maybe 1 min at best.

I must say for my friends, it was their "stoner experience" that really shown though. They were fully tripped out, almost to break though point. And they still managed to carefully and steadily hold the flame gently on the herb without burning it, to take more puffs. It was amazing. And they were able to take full inhales, without coughing. I wasn't a regular smoker of any kind of substance so that was probably my folly.

I refused to be the only one to not have the dmt experience so i tried again with around 125mg, hopping the extra dose would compensate for my lack of experience with using a pipe. But again it was the same result.

My question is, since i still have a bit of DMT left maybe 100-130mg(it's hard to measure) and plenty of dried caapi about 3-4 ounces. I was wondering if i could make a make shift ayahuasca, by dissolving the rest of the DMT into a small cup of thick dried caapi tea like solution. I couldn't find anything on dissolving DMT freebase powder into caapi tea. So i was wondering if it would work, and what the dosages for oral might be.

There is plenty of info on dissolving freebase dmt into caapi brews.
You'll want the brew liquid to add the dmt in.
You'll also want to know the strength of the vine brew before using it.
Too much is a rough ride. Too little & you dont feel much.

Research into preparing aya correctly, dosages, & how to guage potency before mixing the vine & spice.

 

[ThatExistentAsian]

Thanks, could you provide me with some links? And i got a 4oz bag B. caapi leaves. No stems, roots, or bark. And the freebase powder. I'm really not sure what the strength is. Or the dose scale for this kind of mixture with freebase powder. I'm familiar with the smoking/vapeing scale from 10-50mg but not with oral. Although I suspect it might be more since the effects of ayahuasca can last for hours. So that leads me to think the dose is more spread out.

 

[Intezam]

just boil about 70- 90gr of your caapi and make it 3x3hrs. Then reduce to about 60ml and drink this first. About your freebase, it is not as well absorbed by the stomach as HCL or fumerate, so we highly recommend to mix it with some coca cola before drinking it. So, first drink the caapi tea, then wait 35-40mins and then drink your coke/freebase beverage. Why this? The phosphoric acid in the coke changes the nature of your freebase.....

 

[concombres]

Thanks, could you provide me with some links? And i got a 4oz bag B. caapi leaves. No stems, roots, or bark. And the freebase powder. I'm really not sure what the strength is. Or the dose scale for this kind of mixture with freebase powder. I'm familiar with the smoking/vapeing scale from 10-50mg but not with oral. Although I suspect it might be more since the effects of ayahuasca can last for hours. So that leads me to think the dose is more spread out.

Leaf wont work for oral dmt unless hou drink ungodly amounts.
You want the vine. Syrian rue can be had for much cheaper though & brewed quickly.
I'd order some rue & wait for it to arrive because that caapi leaf will not activate oral dmt.
Rue is like $50 for a whole kilo. Even an oz is only ~$5 most places & gets you nearly 10 doses.

 

[ThatExistentAsian]

just boil about 70- 90gr of your caapi and make it 3x3hrs. Then reduce to about 60ml and drink this first. About your freebase, it is not as well absorbed by the stomach as HCL or fumerate, so we highly recommend to mix it with some coca cola before drinking it. So, first drink the caapi tea, then wait 35-40mins and then drink your coke/freebase beverage. Why this? The phosphoric acid in the coke changes the nature of your freebase.....

Thanks, would it be a small amount of coca-cola like just a shot glass full, or more like a cup. sry, I'm kind of a total beginner at this. Although i assume a small shot glass would do it. And what does 3 X 3 hours mean? Split it into 3 doses once every 3 hours. Boil it 3 times 3 hours each?

Also, what kind of effects could i expect from taking it oral as compared to smoking it. As i'm sure successfully smoking 150mg would be quite a journey.